Stem Cells, Inflammation & The Key to Reversing Chronic Disease with Christian Drapeau

In this enlightening conversation, Dr. Brandon Crawford and Christian Drapeau delve into the fascinating world of stem cells and their potential to revolutionize our understanding of aging and health. They explore the mechanisms behind Drapeau's innovative product line, StemRogen, which aims to enhance the body's natural repair systems by mobilizing stem cells. The discussion covers the importance of microcirculation, the different types of stem cells, and practical advice on how to use StemRogen products for optimal health benefits. Drapeau shares his extensive background in neuroscience and plant research, leading to groundbreaking discoveries in stem cell science that challenge conventional views on aging and recovery. In this conversation, Dr. Brandon Crawford and Christian Drapeau discuss the implications of Softwave technology on health, mainly focusing on fertility and Parkinson's disease.

They explore the alarming decline in sperm concentration over the past decades and share anecdotal evidence of improved fertility outcomes with their product line. The discussion transitions to Parkinson's disease, highlighting clinical trials and patient experiences. They emphasize the importance of lifestyle changes to enhance stem cell health and the impact of stress and chemotherapy on stem cell production. Finally, they speculate on the future of stem cell technology, advocating for endogenous stem cell mobilization as a promising avenue for health optimization.

Key Takeaways

• Stem cells are the body’s natural repair system, playing a crucial role in regeneration, recovery, and overall health.
• StemRogen is designed to enhance stem cell mobilization, using plant-based compounds to support the body's ability to heal itself.
• Microcirculation is essential for stem cell effectiveness, as proper blood flow ensures stem cells reach damaged tissues for optimal repair.
• Emerging research suggests stem cell therapy may aid fertility and Parkinson’s disease, with anecdotal evidence showing improved sperm concentration and reduced motor symptoms.
• Stress and chemotherapy can impair stem cell function, while fasting and lifestyle changes may enhance their effectiveness.
• The future of stem cell technology lies in endogenous stem cell mobilization, offering a natural and sustainable approach to health optimization.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Introduction to Longevity and Stem Cells
• 1:25 Meet Christian Drapeau: A Journey from Neuroscience to Herbal Medicine
• 3:08 Stemmergen: A Revolutionary Product for Health and Wellness
• 20:59 Understanding Different Types of Stem Cells
• 31:57 Unexpected Fertility Success
• 32:12 Challenges in Clinical Trials
• 34:59 Parkinson's Disease Insights
• 40:40 Microplastics and Brain Health
• 48:18 Stem Cell Therapy and Cancer
• 52:31 Future of Stem Cell Technology
• 56:27 Daily Steps for Stem Cell Health
• 58:22 Conclusion and Resources

Transcript

Voice Over: Welcome to the Longevity Formula with Dr. Brandon Crawford. Let's explore the new era of wellness. 

Dr. Brandon Crawford: We all want to live longer, healthier lives, right? And we've been told the key is diet, exercise and avoiding bad habits and all that's true. But what if that's only part of the story? What if our bodies already have something built in, something even more powerful that we're just not tapping into?

We tend to think of aging as something that happens to us, like an unstoppable force we just have to accept. But what if that's not entirely true? What if our bodies Already have everything they need to repair, regenerate, and potentially even reverse aspects of aging. What if the key to unlocking this potential lies in understanding and supporting our stem cells, our body's built in repair system?

If you're new to stem cell science, here's what you need to know. Every day, your body releases stem cells from areas like your bone marrow into your bloodstream. Think of stem cells like your body's emergency response team. When there's damage, whether from an injury, illness, or just daily wear and tear, these cells rush in to repair and regenerate.

But as we get older, fewer stem cells are available to do the job. And that might be the real reason we age. Today's guest, Christian Drapeau, has spent over 30 years diving deep into the science of how our bodies actually heal and what is he uncovered. It's completely shifting the way we think about aging.

This isn't just theory. This is real, practical science that can change how we approach longevity, and the best part is something anyone can take advantage of. Welcome to the Longevity Formula, the podcast where we explore a new era of wellness through the pillars of faith, light, movement, mindset, nutrition, and science.

I'm your host, Dr. Brandon Crawford. Christian, thank you so much for joining us today. I'm very excited to have this conversation with you. Can you do us a favor? Can you give us a little bit about your background? So we can better understand, the audience can better understand who they're going to learn from today.

Christian Drapeau: Okay. My original training was in neuroscience. I'm a neurophysiologist trained at McGill University. So initially my work, I was working on epilepsy and memory. at the Montreal Neurological Institute. And then I was always, I mean, I've been, as far as I remember, always interested in plants. So while I was studying neurophysiology, I was playing with plants.

So at some point early in my career, I had this opportunity to, to go and work for a company selling herbal extracts, herbal products. And I saw this like as a, as a great place for me to blend sort of my two my two interests. So I shifted from research. I may, I continued in research, but I shifted from brain research to plants.

So that's sort of the background that led me to the discoveries that we made with stem cells. 

Dr. Brandon Crawford: That's amazing. We're going to really dive deep into this amazing, amazing product line that you've developed. It's called Stemmergen. What I'll tell people is number one, I personally take it. But I take a lot of things.

What's really exciting is that my wife actually takes this. And anyone that's listened to me before knows that something has to really work. for my wife to take it. She feels more energy. It makes her gut work better. It just makes her feel better overall. In fact, if she stops taking it she'll, you know, eventually, you know, we'll be laying in bed and she'll be like, Oh, I need to start taking my Stimrogen again.

I'm like, I've never heard you say this about a. So that's great. And then my integrative psychologist, Dr. Jerry Levine, she is just completely in love with the product line. We use it clinically. We have patients taking it before and after our regenerative medicine procedures. We recommend it for anyone to help enhance neuroplasticity because of the influence that it does have on stem cells.

So in, like I said, we're going to dive deeper. Into this, but can you give us the background about how this product line really came to be 

Christian Drapeau: well, the in 1995. So I'm going back to what I was just saying before in 1995. I was hired by a company that was selling a product that you may have heard about.

blue green algae from Klamath Lake from Southern Oregon. So it was right after the passage of the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act and the company selling product needed to have science to back up the claims that they were making. So that's why I was hired. So we very quickly identified the mechanisms of action for the benefits on inflammation on the immune system and on the mind.

But as I'm doing all this work, I came across people reversing multiple sclerosis, diabetes, heart disease, emphysema, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, so many, so many condition, not only so many condition, but like the extent of these benefits was great. But to me, the big. The big mystery from a scientific standpoint was what is this product doing to help someone's liver, someone else's pancreas, someone else's lung, someone else's brain.

So what is the one mechanism touching so many different aspects of human health? And after a number of years, we discovered in the early days of stem cell research in 2001, that this product was acting as a stem cell mobilizer, was putting more stem cells in circulation. When we completed the description of the mechanism of action, proof of concept bioactives patents, you know, when all of this was done in my mind, there could not be just one plant having an effect on stem cells.

So I started to look at other plants historically associated with a broad variety of benefits and we started to study them. So stem region release. is the blend of the top five plants that we have documented act as stem cell mobilizers. Now, over the years, we saw great results on stem region release alone, just releasing stem cells.

But at the same time, there were a number of individuals where we could tell that they were not getting all the benefits that we would have expected. So the question is, What stands in the way of stem cells once they have been released to really play their regenerative role in the body or even stem cells that are injected once they're in the bloodstream, what can be an obstacle for them to do their full regenerative potential?

Because when that is open the regenerative potential is fairly, I mean, it's amazing. So the two things is systemic inflammation. It is noise in your bloodstream. that makes stem cells less effective at identifying where they need to go in the body, where there's something that needs repair. And when they find where to go and they're going through the fine microvasculature, the fine capillaries, which is what, where they need to go to.

to be able to migrate into tissues. Well, if you don't have a good micro circulation, then stem cells don't have access to the area where they need to go because the stem cell can be 20 micron. Your capillaries is 12 microns. And so we developed the product to open this micro vasculature. So mobilized, so stem regen release.

It releases stem cells, signal improves the signaling. So stem cells can better see where to go and mobilize facilitates their movement into capillaries by opening the microvascular tube. So that's kind of how these products came together. 

Dr. Brandon Crawford: That's amazing. And you do such a better job explaining those mechanisms behind those products than I do.

I always try to kind of regurgitate that for everyone because it is, you know, you just described three different products and you do have a fourth, which is for sports, right? Yeah. More of the, can you maybe just elaborate a little bit on how that product differentiates and what it replaces? 

Christian Drapeau: Sport is essentially the sports version of release.

So it does the same thing as release in terms of putting more stem cells in circulation, but we wanted to achieve two things. We wanted to make this product more specific to recovery from physical exertion. So in order to support the repair of ligaments, muscle, tendons, joints, and so on. And at the same time allow this product to be certified NSF.

So this is an NSF certified product. So we can, so athletes will get tested, can use it. So for us, the aim is to be able to really put that in the hands of, of professional athletes. And so it's both certified for drug testing, but at the same time boosted to help repair anything that gets damaged when you do, you know, intense physical activity.

Dr. Brandon Crawford: Nice. Yeah. And definitely you know, we work with pretty high level athletes. Some I've signed agreements saying I can't discuss who and whatnot. And I will say, like, this is definitely something that we recommend. And you do see better recovery, better performance. Like the results are there. The results are there both clinically, as we're working through some type of pathology or disease state, or rehabbing a brain, whatever we're doing.

Like I can attest clinically results are there. From an athletic standpoint, we see it as well and we get the reports back and I'm, I know you do too, but I'm just saying from our perspective But what I really love is that you guys have real science and you guys have real substantive evidence that supports what your product does, why it works, how it works, et cetera.

I always, I mean, I truly appreciate that. I mean, honestly, the, the two products that I've just been over the moon about, it's Stemmergen, the product line, and Fatty15. Like, I, I have not seen. anything better, you know, and I've been in, I guess I've been doing this for about 15 years. I'm not super old, but I'm, I'm getting there.

But I've been pretty entrenched in the, the clinical world for about 15 years and you guys are just doing a phenomenal job. So the, the product line's amazing. Can you help? unpack how to navigate the use, right? Because you can start using those three products depending on what your goal is.

Maybe you use those three products and then you shift into just using release for, you know, more of a, you know, long term solution. Like, can you kind of help us understand some ways to use the products? 

Christian Drapeau: Sure. So the Stemogen release, you take two capsules and on average, you will release about 10 million of your own stem cells within two, three hours.

I say 10 million, it's, it's, it's the measurement is the highest point. But at one time point, we take a blood sample and that's 10 million. We need to understand that stem cells are being released and then they migrate into tissues. So the picture that we're taking is a very active picture. And I'm saying this just to say.

10 million is probably definitely an understatement. But that, but sticking with the data, an average of 10 million additional stem cells in circulation. If you do this more than, than once a day. So in our studies, we do this three times a day. So you've released roughly like 30 million of your own stem cells during a day.

You don't have to do this. But we do this in our clinical trials where we, we have a study, for example, on congestive heart failure, Parkinson, we're starting one on COPD, liver failure. So we're tackling conditions that are affecting a lot of people where medicine can not do a whole lot. So we boost. The repair system of the body as much as we can.

So people don't have to do this, but that's what stem regen release will do. You don't have to take it on an empty stomach. It really doesn't matter. The other two products both signal and mobilize contain digestive enzymes, and we want the effect of these enzymes to be in the bloodstream. So to get that, these products need to be taken on an empty stomach.

The effect will last much longer during the day. So you can take, so the, the, the best way of taking these products in the morning, mobilize is a sachet. You just mix it with water. You take four tablets of signal. It contains various plant extract that will block the synthesis of various inflammatory compounds to various pathways both of them on an empty stomach.

And then you take two capsules of release. So the three of them, when you reach like the peak release of stem cells, You've also reached peak opening of your capillaries, reduction of systemic inflammation, but the effect on circulation and inflammation will last throughout the day. So you can then other times in the day, if you want another time or two other times to take another two capsules of stem region release.

That is sort of what we call our advanced protocol. You really want to give a boost in your repair. You want to see what your body will do with that repair. You do the protocol, the, the advanced protocol for, let's say for a month or two. Then you can kind of go back down into baseline just with a simple stimulation every day of releasing stem cells.

Whether you want to use signal or mobilize for the longterm. I would say depends on your overall physiology, like, you know, if, if you have a, you tend to have a poor circulation. If you have, and I'm not saying that these are like, like all or none, but if you fall, if you say yes to any of those, like you tend to have cold feet, you tend to have cold hands.

You tend to easily get numb in your legs. You try to stand on one leg and you cannot stand on one leg more than one minute. Oftentimes, like these are signs that you get some level. of neuropathy that is developing. It's not clinical, it's no big deal, but it's all tied to poor circulation. So you know that you're releasing stem cells, they may not reach everywhere in the body.

So I would say Mobilize gets to be like a really good product. If you get up in the morning and you've got little aches and pain and it takes a little while before it stretches and you start to be comfortable in your day. Well, you have some level of background inflammation in your body, then Signal will be a good product to take to, to kind of bring that down and opens the path to path for your stem cells to go where they need to go.

Let me just finish by saying that a product like mobilize to me when I was doing my class of of I did sort of all the same class that med student would do, but I was interested in research and when we did the cardiovascular class, I was fascinated by. The, the whole emo dynamics, like the, the, the, the way with which blood circulates in blood vessels, how, when you get a fork in your capillaries or your blood vessels, how this create turbulence the whole dynamics of blood flow.

And I was amazed by one thing that I've almost like never heard ever since into. popular medicine, even in, in, in main medicine, is that you take a blood sample, we tell you everything about your blood profile. And we never look as to whether that blood that has whatever profile it has, is it reaching your fine capillaries?

Because if it is not reaching your fine capillaries, it really does not matter what you have in your blood. So the, the health. of your microcirculation is absolutely paramount for the health of your, of your overall body. And that's why we made Mobilize. So natokinase to increase blood fluidity, nitric oxide producer to dilate capillaries, bioflavonoids and plant extract to support the flexibility of capillaries.

And then the polysaccharides to rebuild the glycocalyx, which is at the surface of capillaries to facilitate cellular trafficking. In these, in these capillaries. So stem cells are not mobilized is also going to, to really boost your overall help by supporting the delivery of everything into, into your, you know, that you have in your bloodstream.

Does that give it like a good, a good overview of how to use the products? 

Dr. Brandon Crawford: Absolutely. And, and those are all discussions that, you know, we, we definitely help patients navigate you know, how to take and why maybe they need to do mobilize long term or, you know, something like that, which I will say something that, that I like to do for my post TBI patients, like if I can get a hold of someone like pretty soon after they had a mild to moderate traumatic brain injury.

One thing we always have to make sure is happening is their, their blood flow is, is appropriate in their brain. I love using this product line, especially in that scenario. Obviously, you know, the person has already been screened for, you know, all the bad stuff and the scary stuff. So that I'm not saying this replaces that, but I have seen this product line help to normalize that blood flow in the post TBI phase.

And then of course, going through rehab, we need blood flow. We need stem cells. We need all these things to happen for you know, new for pathways to form for neuroplasticity of form. Super, super important. You know, I'm sitting here listening to you about, you know, you take, you know, a couple of release and, and at least get this 10 million, you know, stem cells released into the blood.

I mean, what happens if I just take the whole bottle? I mean, what is there a max dose here? What happens? And there's no 

Christian Drapeau: match those as we, as we know it, like scientifically is there a point of diminishing return where if you take more than a certain amount, then it's not really helping you. I really don't have the answer to that question.

In order to study these small differences, you would need like a significant population. So it would be, let's say like a 1. 5 million study to tell you that taking four is better than taking two. And, and, and over the years. I can tell you more is, is traditionally better. I've for about what, six years, I took 18 capsules a day.

So six capsules, three times a day because I had access to the product. Number one. And number two, I had this question, like, what is something going to show up? If really we take a lot of products and. I never experienced anything unusual. I cannot tell you if there was nothing like negative that ever, ever showed up.

And I did not experience anything out of the ordinary, but I I'm healthy. Like I did not have any problem, but I'm looking back now. And one thing I could say is that I have like 3 million over 3 million air miles. I've lectured in, in 50 plus countries on STEM cells over the years. I've been traveling so much and I don't have any of the consequence, you know, that oftentimes when people have traveled a lot, they end up with a series of issues and I, I can serve jet lags like I'm doing fine.

So is it because I had this boost over the years? I don't know, but in our studies we don't go to 18 capsules a day. We do six. So two capsules, three times a day. Stem Regen is stronger than other products that I had in the past. So two capsules, three times a day is, I think is, is good enough. We have one ongoing study right now with stable congestive heart failure, a chronic stable congestive heart failure.

And so far in that study out of 10 patients, 10 out of 10 abnormal heart function after six months. So two, three times a day seems to really do the job. Could, could two once a day do the job? There's no doubt in my mind that in some patient it will, but we're doing a study. We want to maximize the outcome.

We want to make sure that we can really document this and publish the data. So we do two, three times a day. I would not go more than that. 

Dr. Brandon Crawford: That that's actually quite impressive results. So is that ongoing or is that Published. 

Christian Drapeau: It's not published. We are working right now. We're preparing the paper to publish the first set of data.

It's preliminary data. So it's an ongoing study. We want to bring it to probably like 40 patients. Now we have 10 done and we have three groups. One group is stem regen. One group is adipose stem cell injection. And another group is a combination of both because we have seen over the years that when you combine both, you really get the best results.

So we want to be able to document both. the benefit of combining both. And at the same time, how does stem region compare with a stem cell injection? So that is going to be the full study when it's completed. 

Dr. Brandon Crawford: That that's amazing. So just so the audience understands, right, because in the research world a lot of things can happen.

You can just research your product and not really compare it to anything and show that, hey, we got these results and that needs to happen. That's good. But we, you just described as, hey, we're, we're actually trying to figure out how to best help people. There's a big difference in, you know, that, and it really just shows the mindset of your company and what you guys are really trying to achieve.

You know, thank you for that, because that's what research is truly for. And, you know, we, we've noticed the same thing as we do. The song laser activated V cell procedure we do a few other regenerative med procedures and I can absolutely say that when the patient does the submergent products before and after we absolutely get better results compared to if, if they don't do anything.

So I can definitely say that it enhances the overall procedure for sure. Absolutely. I, I am curious, do you guys, so when you talk about the increase in stem cells in the blood are we talking mesenchymal cells or what do we, what type of stem cell are we seeing? 

Christian Drapeau: Over the years, we've added more and more markers, you know, to kind of further describe and identify which stem cells is being enhanced with, with the product and, and essentially it's, it's three types of stem cells, the zinc imel stem cells.

V cells and then endothelial progenitor cells. These are the three types of stem cells that are the most affected with the product. So we never published the data, but at some point a patent was filed about it. We're we're targeting V cells. So what we were able to document is that we increase V cells Roughly about like 30 percent and, but we also activate about a third of them as well compared to from before and after taking the product within an hour or two of taking the product.

So in a procedure like what you're doing, it's going to like magnify the procedure because you will have more V cells to work with and you will also have already primed some of these V cells. to receive the stimulation that you're giving it. V cells treatment is one of the place where stem regen gives a really strong synergy.

Dr. Brandon Crawford: That is rather exciting. So can you, okay, so can you unpack for the audience, like, why is that really exciting for me and for everyone else that you can increase these cells like you can? I mean, these, these cells, in my opinion, are the most exciting because of what they can do and their size and all the things, and there's still a lot that we need to know about them.

Can you walk us through like some of the different stem cells and whatnot? Do you mind giving us a brief background on that? 

Christian Drapeau: Sure. I mean, we can easily go very complex there. 

Dr. Brandon Crawford: Yeah. Sorry. I kind of picked one up to go in multiple directions. 

Christian Drapeau: No, no, it's good. It's good. But but I just want first to plant in people's in people's mind that scientists And I'm not saying this like it's not, it's not a derogatory statement at all because we've got, we have to do that to some extent is that we label everything.

You look at something, if it fits certain characteristics, you call that mesenchymal stem cells. If it does other things, you call it a different name. And, and we, we classify like this stem cells according to different characteristics. And we kind of assume. That's once we put a label on it, and once it's been, it's been determined to be a type of stem cells that it's like a dog.

Now it's, it's, it's a pit bull. It's never going to be a Labrador. Stem cells are not like that. They're much more labile and flexible. I believe that they move much, much more. Freely into these different pools there's, there's studies, for example, showing that if you take a liver stem cells, so an oval cells, which is a stem cells specific to the liver.

So it's, it's a tissue committed stem cell, but you put it in the pancreas. and it's going to become better cells producing insulin. So it was, so the traditional, traditional science tells us when a stem cell gets into a lineage, then it cannot reverse back. And it's not true. There's a lot of data showing that there's way more flexibility stem cells.

So as we keep that in mind, I'm going to call mesenchymal stem cells this sort of very broad class of stem cells that has more of this labile or flexible nature. So these stem cells are in your fat tissue. They don't, you don't release them from your fat tissue, but you can extract them. spin them and use them for treatment.

Before I continue, another little tidbit of information, which I think is fascinating from a scientific standpoint. Mesenchymal stem cells refer to the mesenchyme. So they were originally the stem cells that are derived from from the mesenchyme. They're in your bone marrow. So traditionally, that's where they're from.

So you would take a sample of stem cells from the bone marrow. And what was seen is that if you just use a test tube and you just swirl the test tube, when you rinse the test tube, they are stuck to the glass. And that became a method to isolate these stem cells. You just use the proper medium, certain plastic will do it, glass, and they will stick to the, to, to the side of the, the test tube.

And then you just have to resuspend them and you've isolated your stem cells. And now that you later or day later, scientists realize that when you take fat stem cells, they also stick to glasses. So they will call mesenchymal stem cells as well. So the way to determine what has been called the mesenchymal stem cells.

The way to do this became like really broad in a way. So they are very precise way to call them, but in the scientific literature, it's not always very clear what method was used to call them as enchymal stem cells. And that's why I'm saying it's a broad class. These stem cells have the ability of becoming just about anything in the body, but not anything like they cannot become egg.

They cannot become a sperm in, in a few other of your hormonal tissue, your foundational tissues, like latex cells, for example and and some others. But, but overall they are your repair system. They can become just about everything. These cells, so endothelial progenitor cells is a stem cell that have started to go into a direction.

They will become your endothelial cells making blood vessels. So there's, they're, they're very numerous in your blood, in your bloodstream compared to other stem cells, like stem cells are very, the, the, the, the, the population is very small in the blood. But among all those stem cells, endothelial progenitor cells is a good population because you're making blood vessels all the time.

So they're really needed in any kind of, of tissue repair, anywhere in your body where you got a little bit of ischemia in your muscles then it's going to prime these endothelial progenitor cells to increase delivery of oxygen to those tissues. So that's another type of stem cells. And then the last one is your V cells, the one that you're talking about.

What is fascinating about V cells is that everybody has heard of PF like platelet rich fraction, platelet rich, rich plasma that has been used for by athletes in horses for decades. So you take the blood, you spin it and you just inject that in joint and it's extremely regenerative. But the traditional.

knowledge or language around this, this, this treatment is that it's not stem cells. It's growth factors that you have, you know, in that platelet rich fraction. But what we know today is that in that fraction, you also collect a population of stem cells that are very small. So they have been called by various names.

They've been called blastomere like stem cells. multi potent adult stem cells, I think, and then V cells, the V cell name, very small embryonic like stem cells is the one that's stuck in the scientific literature. So that's the one that is the most used. So it's these very small stem cells that when you extract your, your platelets, they move with your platelets, but they are stem cells.

Platelets have no DNA. So if you take all these small cells and then you stain them for DNA. and you use a marker of stem cells, you see that there's a small population of them that have DNA and they have markers for stem cells. They are these V cells. These cells have been broadly documented to play an enormous role in, in various kinds of injuries, muscle injuries.

They've been known to be pulled in muscles, but also in the bone marrow. And the beauty of these stem cells is that they can become eggs. They can become sperm. They can become literally like everything in the body. So they are really there, there's another type of stem cells that have been called the muse.

So multi, multipotent. What is it? A multipotent, like stress resistant stem cells, I think. 

Dr. Brandon Crawford: In the U. S. E. Yes. The MUSE cells. I don't exactly remember the acronym, but yes, MUSE cells for sure. 

Christian Drapeau: Yeah. But, but there is, they call them like resisting to stress. And so they're very sturdy I think they're isolated in from connective tissue, but they're also, they have the same potential as V cells, but they're not as accessible.

So today they're developing ways to be able to extract them and be able to use them. There's a great future for those, but today V cells are probably the most potent stem cells that we have in the human body. So they are living most of the time, not most of the time we find them in the bloodstream, the majority of them will be in a quiescent state and that's when they're very small.

When they are activated, they expand a little bit, they grow, they go from one micron to roughly about three microns. You can measure a lot of RNA, RNA expression, gene activation. When that process is taking place, various things can, can activate them. Stem region release we have seen can activate them, but specific wavelengths can also activate them and that's the work that we do.

So I tried to like, in that explanation sort of embed, you know, what, what you're doing. So these are roughly like the different types of stem cells and are there being used umbilical cord stem cells are broadly into the class of mesenchymal stem cells. 

Dr. Brandon Crawford: That's beautiful. That's such a great explanation.

And you did a, just a phenomenal job breaking down all the different classes and all the different things and, and how to navigate that conversation. The size of those V cells, one to three microns, just as a. You know, comparison, you know, typical mesenchymal cells are what, microns, you know, just to kind of give an example, 

Christian Drapeau: there's a broad range for them.

But, but yeah, they can go up to 20, up to 30 microns as well. I would say average size. Yeah. 15 to 30. Right. 

Dr. Brandon Crawford: And, and of course, I, I love the idea of the size of those V cells because they can. More easily get into these tiny little capillary beds and in theory across into the, you know, through the blood brain barrier, etc.

So definitely, you know, very, very exciting there. Just to kind of shift, you know, I had a thought that popped into my head. I was. Doing a meeting yesterday, actually with the SoftWave team we were talking about how the SoftWave technology influences brain function. We were talking about our clinical results, et cetera.

And the, the conversation kind of shifted into a discussion on fertility. And so this was a group of physicians and, and researchers. And it was interesting that you know, sperm concentration over the, over the past 50 years has declined roughly 50%, which is mind boggling and scary. Have you seen any type, cause this is a big problem.

Have you guys seen or done any research or have any clinical anecdotes or anything where by using this product line, we see any kind of change in sperm morphology, concentration, motility? Hormonal health or, or anything in that realm? 

Christian Drapeau: Yes. But it is, let's be clear. It is anecdotal. I don't have the actual data.

And it's a number of years ago. So we someone was using in a clinic, it was in Mexico. So in a clinic. Two patients that were in a fertility clinic started to use our product and then apparently the, the clinic noticed that within about what four to six weeks, eight weeks, their sperm count, like increased significantly, something like.

5 million to 20 million within that time frame. So that was their response. Their response was like, wow, what are you doing? So they shared that they were using this product. So the clinic reached out to us and it, and, and so we structured a clinical trial using 14 couples that were in their clinic to whom we gave the product and, and both the, the, the, the man and the woman, and then, and they measured various parameters over time.

And so we shipped the product and about what, probably like four to six months later I asked the doctor that I was working with, which was the liaison with that, with this clinic. And I said, so where are we with this project? He said, Oh, don't, don't tell me they, they stopped the project. So I was concerned.

I thought like, is something negative happened? He says, no, seven of the couple. So basically it was destroying their model. But that's all the information that I have. I was never able to get any of the data. They never shared anything with me. So all I know is that story and and, and, and aside from that story, this vague report overall in the community of people using the products that if you're trying to conceive.

Then it would be good for you to get on the product because, because people are talking about how it has helped them conceive. I've never done a project on this. Simply because no other reason than we're limited, you know, we have a small research team. We have a small budget to do these clinical trials and to do a trial on this.

Fertility is a sensitive topic. I prefer to be more targeted like heart disease. We're doing one on Parkinson's. We're doing one on COPD, colitis. So these are metrics that, you know, you, you, you take these four studies on long heart, brain and digestive track. And I think we're touching like. 80 percent of health problems in America so we're targeting those.

That's the only reason why we did not do more, more of an in depth study. We have a group right now in Turkey that have expressed a desire to do a fertility trial. So we, we might have one done in the coming year. 

Dr. Brandon Crawford: Nice. Yeah. I mean. You know, and I don't even remember how we got on the topic of fertility yesterday, but you know, it is just scary because, you know, right now with the 50 percent decline over the 50 years in sperm concentration right now, the average male still has enough, you know, sperm to, to, to conceive.

But if this trend continues you know, over the next 50 years and we declined another, you know, that would be, you know, proportionally another, you know, 25 percent basically. Then levels will not be adequate to, to conceive. So this is a big problem and your product line just makes sense to me because you know, you're just, you're reducing the stress response ultimately in the body, right?

With this, this combination of products, you're mitigating and modulating inflammation. You're improving micro circulation, you're improving nutrient delivery. And then for the regenerative effect, you're, you're increasing stem cell count. This is like a. This is huge. I mean, not just for fertility, but for all things.

Can you walk me through some of the things that you guys are seeing with Parkinson's? Cause I, I've seen a lot of Parkinson's patients over the years with varying results because it's so multifactorial the etiology can be different, you know, for, for all of these people. And, and like I said, we've had varying results.

So can you walk us through some of the. results you guys are seeing. 

Christian Drapeau: Sure. I mean, we've got a number of, of, of stories over the years, but as you know, stories they don't have a scientific value out there to make claims. They have a value to me in the sense that they're telling me the kind of conditions where we do see benefits, but, but we have a star case a number of years ago who went from really like not even to not, not, not being able to like dress himself, shave, eat, walk, drive his car, obviously.

And within six weeks. had basically resumed a normal life. So we published that case a number of years ago, but it's a few of those cases that really prompted to do a more in depth study. So we have this study that we're doing in a clinic in Madrid, which is where we have right now, most of our clinical trials are being done from that clinic.

And we did the heart study there and the Parkinson's study. We started probably about a year ago now, and it's going slow for a very, I mean, it's a sad reason. Most patients interested to get into the study, go and see their treating neurologist and they say, Hey, I'm interested to get in that study, you know, should I get into it?

And the answer that they get from their neurologist is that nothing can repair the brain. It's a waste of time. This is a scam. So the patients are really sort of disincentivized to, to be part of the project. So it made it very difficult. to recruit people in that study. So I should travel to Madrid to speak to their Parkinson's society to kind of make them more aware of the possibilities here.

So I got the data on, on the 10 first patients just yesterday. So I have not yet had a chance to dive into the data of these 10 patients, but about what. Six months ago I got the first four patients. On those four patients, at the time, the data that we had was Sorry.

Dr. Brandon Crawford: I feel ya. I just got over the flu myself and I'm still not fully, like, I'm still having some challenges. I'm still coughing. This was, it was bad, man. Like What I got hit with, it was terrible. 

Christian Drapeau: Mine was very light, but but it was there. And right now, like you said, I just have a little bit of the mucus that are flowing in there.

On four patients, what we saw is a 50 percent reduction of motor symptoms. So the USPDR, I think questionnaire and tests. You know, he asked them to stand on one leg. How long can they test? We're also doing voice analysis. I don't know how much, you know, voice analysis. It is an amazing, fascinating diagnostic tool for just about anything.

Like you rec, you record. Someone's voice and you can diagnose like heart disease, hypertension all kinds of problem in Parkinson's is one that has been documented quite a bit. So we, so 50 percent improvement in motor skills. 36 percent reduction in depression, which is one of a huge component of Parkinson and 56 percent improvement in overall quality of life measured with ESF 36 questionnaire.

So that's where we were with the first four patients. So I'm going to dive here into 10 patients, but we want to grow that study to roughly about like 30 patients. 

Dr. Brandon Crawford: That's amazing. And that was after how long 

Christian Drapeau: of using the product? Six months. So this is six months, two capsules, three times a day. And that study, we did not start it with the full protocol because we did not have the full protocol when we started the study.

So we might very well include now the full protocol in these patients just to see what difference we see, because that's why we brought the mobilize and the signal. Because in that study, we see very clearly we have some patients. We do see some, some benefits, but after six months, the benefits are minimal.

And then we have other patients within six weeks, they've almost like reached maximal benefits. So they continue to take the product, but we can tell here they got like the bulk of the benefit upfront. And these benefits are significant, like this case that we already published. Why? Why do we see that kind of difference in different people and that it's based upon this kind of observation that we brought signal for systemic inflammation and mobilize for capillary circulation.

It would be interested to take those patients in which we did not see a lot of benefits. And I'll put them on the protocol and see, do we see benefits in these patients? But that's where we are today with, with that data. 

Dr. Brandon Crawford: And that just makes sense, you know, because the the midbrain, the basal ganglia, they're not very well perfused, right?

You have the lenticulus, right? Watershed going through there. It's just not a very well perfused area. Lacunar infarcts are one of the, you know, big drivers of what presents like Parkinson's, right? So you can have an occlusion you know, hypoxia reduction of blood flow and hypoxia that, that then results in degeneration of that midbrain region, producing Parkinsonian like symptoms.

These patients actually And my clinical history are the ones that we can actually do a lot with because there's a lot of strategies that we can take to actually improve blood flow through that area. So it would just make sense to me that by including mobilize would have a huge impact on those patients.

So that's exciting. That's awesome. So 

Christian Drapeau: and there's something I came across a study recently. It was, it was to me, it's fascinating. It's early. So there any, any, anything we say about it is sort of an extrapolation. Like the data is not there for these extrapolation. But what did it is that they took.

Microplastic, the same type of microplastic that you find in a, in a ready to serve food that you just put into your microwave. So they took these microplastic, they dyed them with they put a fluorescent tag on them and then they basically fed them to mice and they were able to see some of these particles getting stuck in capillaries in the brain and they would stick there for a few, for a few hours.

And some of them. Stayed blocked for up to four weeks, which was the length of their study and what they could see using cameras in vivo cameras of the brain and they could see that the moment that you get a micro plastic particle that is stuck, oftentimes they get engulfed by by macrophages, but then these macrophages get some flame and then they get stuck into these micro vasculature and then they back up the circulation and now you get very poor flow of serum.

into, into that circulation. So that means you get low grade hypoxia. And the question is to what extent is that also happening in humans? And to me, there's no question that to an extent it's also happening in humans. And the point of it, the moment you can increase. The, the, the, the, the, the diameter of these, of these vessels, you can allow the flow circulation of plasma, which is cleansing, which is, I mean, everything that is happening, delivery of cells, cleansing, it's huge what it brings to, to, to the whole, the overall process of tissue repair.

Dr. Brandon Crawford: Right. Yeah, microplastics are a real problem. There's now studies on this. There's, there's good studies that have been done on this. It's still controversial. I don't really understand why. It's clear that it's out there and that it's causing harm. But whatever, there's always going to be debate on, you know, what's driving chronic illness.

But man, the data is so clear on this. So let's, let's give some actionable steps. So obviously, you know, starting the StemmerGen product line, if you haven't is in my opinion, a must if you want to maintain health. If you want to be, you know, you want to gain an edge, right? Maybe you're a biohacker or an executive or an athlete or something like this, like gaining an edge, keeping an edge, super important.

You have some kind of chronic debilitating illness, whether it's autoimmune, whether it's degenerative, whether it's traumatic, whatever it is like. All of these demographics, in my clinical opinion, I'll take the liability from you, like this is me speaking as a physician. All of these demographics, in my opinion, can really benefit from starting on Stemrigin.

Of course, consult with your physician and make sure that, you know, this is right for you, etc. But what are some other actionable steps that someone can take just on a daily basis, whether it's lifestyle, you know, something that they can do to help to increase their stem cell health in volume or whatever it may be.

Christian Drapeau: So right now in terms of lifestyle, and before I go there, I think Brandon, there's one thing that is super important. I always come back to that basics. We, we, the medical world and a lot of people look at health from the angle of disease. So we're talking a product here that we're studying with heart disease.

We're studying it with Parkinson's, but fundamentally the product is, is not about disease at all. Right. What we have discovered. is that your stem cells are your repair system, just like the, the, the, the human body has an immune system in the exact same way you have a repair system. Nobody will think twice if you get a call to go and take echinacea and astragalus to boost your immune system.

Like it's, it's the thing to do. Well, if something is broken in your body or not functioning properly, or is in decline because it's losing cells. If you don't have enough better cells in your pancreas, it's diabetes. If you don't have enough cardiomyocytes, it's heart disease. If you don't have enough cells, cells have been damaged and killing your lung, it's emphysema and so on.

So cells making dopamine in your brain, that's Parkinson. So stem cells can become all these cells and repair all these tissues. It's simply the repair system. All the problems that we have in our 50s, 60s, 70s, 40s even, we didn't have them in our 20s. And one of the main differences is that we had way more stem cells in our 20s than we have in our 60s.

So all we're doing is that we're putting more stem cells in circulation, and then the body has those stem cells to basically utilize. As it's natural innate ability to repair. That's really all that we're doing. We're not curing anything. We're just giving back to your body. It's ability to repair. Now we're doing this with plants.

There are other things that we can do in terms of lifestyle to, to, to help stem cells, physical activity. will put more stem cells in circulation, intense physical activity will also push the blood into your microvasculature. So it's really good for the delivery of stem cells, the overall stem cell function.

So that's one thing that is relevant. Fasting has been shown to put more stem cells in circulation. When you're fasting, those stem cells are more sluggish, more dormant, but the moment you resume feeding, then you have more stem cells. And what is interesting is that studies, it's kind of, I wouldn't call it preliminary, but they're not like a lot of those studies that have been done.

So it, it, it demands to be duplicated, but at least the data is pointing in the direction that if you take a stem cell before fasting, And then you look at its ability to migrate through tissue, to, to move and to differentiate and to proliferate. And then you fast and then you take a stem cell after fasting.

These stem cells behave as if they had rejuvenated as if they were younger stem cells. So fasting is a good way to rejuvenate your stem cells and your bone marrow. And I've sort of allowed him to have like the power that they had when you were younger. So these are like the two main things that you can do to boost stem cell activation.

Now, the things that you can do to eliminate a suppression on stem cell effect, the main one is stress. So this was shown in different animal models, but essentially the moment that you release stress hormones in your bloodstream, the stress hormones will suppress the ability of stem cells to migrate.

Proliferate in your body. So essentially you suppress your innate ability to repair. And it's to me the way that it, the reason why it's important is that in our modern city life, I mean, is there a day that we're not exposed to some level of stress or anxiety? Like it's a constant, constant presence in our lives.

So if we don't develop a way of really controlling and managing stress, like not sweating the small stuff, then then that means we can live sometimes. for decades with having a suppressed ability to repair. So there's no question that this is associated that I think it is one of the main reason why stress and anxiety for decades now has been associated with almost like any kind of age related disease because you suppress over decades, your ability to repair a smoking cigarettes.

Drinking alcohol regularly will also suppress stem cells ability to work in the body. These are like the main ones that have been documented as having an effect, positive or negative effect on stem cells. 

Dr. Brandon Crawford: Right. Yeah, absolutely. And then now, you know, the WHO has come out and said alcohol is actually a carcinogen, right?

And so that leads to, well, how does cancer develop? Well, there's mechanisms in this. these stem cell kinetics, right? That actually, you know, we can, we won't get into the discussion now, but I am curious, have you, have you taken someone or had any anecdotal data, someone that let's say was exposed to something like agent orange or chemotherapy or something like this, that, that will downregulate stem cell production or radiation exposure, right?

Whether it be therapeutic or, or not and actually seeing. The ability to actually turn on, you know, the, you know, increase stem cell count, turn them back on, like, et cetera. Have you had any conversations like this? 

Christian Drapeau: We, we don't have any data, but it's a very, very, very common report when people are on.

Chemotherapy, any kind of cancer treatment, which chemotherapy is like all these drugs are essentially aiming to kill cells that duplicate really fast, highly proliferative cells because that's what cancer cells are. But stem cells are that too. So that means whenever you wipe out cancer cells, you also wipe out stem cells, but you need your stem cells to produce your immune system and to produce like, that's why gut issues.

Losing hair, like so many of these, of these of these side effects are directly linked to killing cells that your stem cells in your body. So we have seen, and I don't have the mechanism of action here, but it's very, very common. Somebody will be in a treatment, will be taking stem regen release and we'll come back and we'll say, well, in my clinic I'm the only one that has not lost their hair or had any of the sort of the side effects that is oftentimes reported.

Some people have told me. I'm told that whenever I go for my shot for chemotherapy, that I'm, I'm, I'm told that I should take like three days off after to recover. And they say, I just go back to work right after it's not affecting me. So I've heard a lot of those stories. I've never wanted to document any of them just because of the, sort of the, I mean, this is a big FDA issue to cancer.

We're not making any claim. It's nowhere. We don't talk about it, but for patients who are going through that experience. Man, you know, try it. See for yourself. Don't promote it. But, but for quality of life, you know, for humanitarian reason, let's at least just state the fact that people are reporting a lot of benefits with this.

Dr. Brandon Crawford: Yeah. And there's no reason, you know, not to, I mean, it's not going to cause harm. And we were talking about plants and anyway that's great. I mean, I did, 

Christian Drapeau: I did think for a little while, for a little while I was thinking if, if you, if you prevent the effect of chemotherapy, then, of course, you prevent the side effects of it.

So are we, and that's why doctors will say, don't take, you know, free antioxidants, like a lot of things you don't want to take during the treatment because you want the full effect of the treatment. So my question was, are we, in some ways, mitigating the treatment, in which case we probably need to tell people not to, not to take the product during the treatment.

But everybody that come back and talking about how it's helping them on the side effects also come back and talk about how they're the patients doing like the best, you know, in the group, wherever they are, they have a great story of recovery. So we really see only benefits with that combination. So I'm not going to say it's good for cancer treatment.

Let's just say that people who take the product with cancer treatment tend to have great experience. 

Dr. Brandon Crawford: That's awesome. And just really good to hear that. And I agree just for humanitarian reasons, like, you know, we're just here to help people. I mean, my, my grandmother had a really bad case of lymphoma and it had spread through the entire body before we were able to, you know, And I did, this was several years ago, was not familiar with your product line.

I had lasers on her every day. There's really good things that can be done for people in these scenarios. And she was actually dancing around her living room. You know, when they gave her what, like two months to live or something like a year down the road, she's fully functional and all these things.

She did pass away from other things going on, but anyway. I think that we're definitely talking about, you know, the leading edge you know, the most, most dynamic breakthroughs in medicine. I mean, we're talking about some really exciting stuff. If we were to fast forward, let's say 10 years, 20 years down the road what is this?

And this is kind of a esoteric question, so I don't know how you want to answer it, but where is this technology taking us in a few decades? What do you see on the horizon? Where is this going with stem cells and the technology we have? Like, what do you foresee here? 

Christian Drapeau: Well, I see a number of things. We briefly mentioned these muse cells which seems to be like.

Like fascinating cells to work with. So I think technologies will be developed to properly isolate them, grow them and start to use them. They may become sort of the, the, the cell of choice to use in the future because umbilical cord stem cells, they they're great. Like there's a lot of usage for them right now.

But in the long term, I don't think that they're the ideal source of cells for a number of reasons. The first one is just supply. Supply is bound to be limited. Like there's way more people that need stem cell treatment that we have babies born right now. So somewhere there's a limit to that supply.

Plus some other. potential negative, but let's not get into that right now. So I think the path will go toward these kinds of cells. So that will be one, one approach. Another approach will be to take stem cells, either umbilical cord or your own stem cells, your own fat derived stem cells, and then start to do genetic modification to these cells.

This is already done. There are clinics that can do that. For example, there's a clinic, the BMI clinic in Costa Rica where they've taken the KLOTHO gene, which is a gene that has been very strongly associated with longevity. So they take your stem cells, they insert that KLOTHO gene. in that stem cells.

Then they multiply that stem cells, make it into a population. And then we re inject that stem cells in you. These stem cells go back, repopulate your bone marrow. And now you've got a new strain of bone marrow stem cells in your bone marrow that now have that longevity genes. So gene modification is something that is happening also down the road, but it's hard for me to not.

Think in a different way from what probably a lot of stem cell scientists think, because of the fact that I've, I've sort of stumbled on this, I've developed this, this whole approach, which is called endogenous stem cell mobilization, which is instead of going in one place, where on one day as a one time injection, you get an injection 100 million stem cells.

What if you start to release 10 million of your own stem cells, but you do this every day for a year, you have released 10 million a day. So that means it's 30, I mean, what, 3 billion, 30 billion stem cells that you have released over that year. That's huge. It's huge. It's huge. So you do this, let's say twice a day, like 6 billion of your own stem cells that you have released and you've released that in a way that is very physiological.

You're not supposed to suddenly have a one shot injection of 100 million stem cells. That is not a natural input of stem cells. When you have an injury. Let's say a heart attack, a bone fracture. Normally what is happening in your body is that within a matter of 10, 12 hours, compounds are detected in your blood that are known to trigger the release of stem cells from your bone marrow.

Then after the second day, we can start to see the increase in the number of stem cells. Between three to five days, there could be up to tenfold increase. In the number of stem cells in circulation, it's this wave of stem cells. So there's a build out and it goes down. So there's a whole process that is set up.

The tissue that is needing repair is releasing compounds to attract stem cells to that tissue. This phenomenon is not naturally present in the body when I just basically inject a number of stem cells. So what I'm thinking here is that. If you allow your body every day to just release a lesser number of stem cells, but you do this physiologically over long periods of time, you basically end up with a much greater impact over time.

It's physiological. You don't have to travel, you don't, it's your own stem cells. I mean, the, the number of positive, I'm not saying it's the answer for everybody, but it's definitely the answer for the masses. So to me, there are a lot of technical, technological development that will take care, take place in the world of stem cell research.

But I hope that what really sinks in, sinks in, in the population is understanding that you have a repair system. There are ways to boost that repair system. And if you do that every day, the results see in our heart patients, in our, in, in the Parkinson's studies, the results can be quite far reaching. 

Dr. Brandon Crawford: Now that that just makes sense.

I mean, usability is huge and you're right. You know, when you get those stem cell procedures done, it can be a super physiologic dose. How much of that's really being used? How much of those cells are actually just, you know, going to die or be reabsorbed by the body? And some of those questions really just are not answered yet.

So you're right. I mean, it just makes sense. And then not even to focus on the clinical part, but I mean, crap, it's cheaper, right? I mean, you take your stem cell product line, you know, over the course of a year compared to some of these stem cell procedures and it's cheaper. So easier to use, cheaper long term, you know, it just makes sense to me.

And I think you're right. This, this idea of endogenous stem cell production and mobilization I agree with you, that's, that is truly innovative and where medicine needs to be going, where health needs to be going that's huge. So I know that, you know, I'm extremely grateful. for the work that you've done.

My patients are extremely grateful for the work that you've done. My family's grateful for the work that you, you've done. We're, you know, very humbled and honored to have you on the show today. Can you, can you give my listeners some resources? Where can they go to find more about you? More about, you know, what you're doing, et cetera.

Christian Drapeau: If you go on our website, which is stemregen. co we have, you'll find, you'll find a lot of articles really documenting stem cells, how the products are working, the science behind all of it. And I use the, the handle of. stem cell Christian on both Instagram. So if you have any questions, post them. The team brings that to me and I regularly make videos here to just answer all these questions.

And if none of these are answered, just, you will have an email on our website, just send an email and we have a team that is going to respond to them. And if they can, they'll, they'll roll it up to me and I'll, I'll, I'll answer it. 

Dr. Brandon Crawford: Fantastic. Before we sign off here, is there anything else that you'd like to tell the world?

Christian Drapeau: You know, there's one thing we didn't touch that I think like it puts all of this in like into kind of a, a greater context. I find it fascinating that we're talking because this is not, we don't have those kinds of discoveries very often in the whole world of medicine. Here is something that every single individuals, everything, everyone born on this planet has experienced.

that their body repairs. Everybody has had a cut, a bone fracture, something in their life, and they've witnessed that their body is recovering. They've had this like many times in their lives. And yet in medicine, that part of their life is not talked about, is not explained. You break a bone, the doctor puts you in a cast and says, come back in six weeks.

You come back six weeks later, we remove the cast, the bone is repaired. Nothing is said about the process because until now it was not known what was this process of repair and now we've discovering what it is. It's the role of your stem cells in your body. So when we talk about it, it looks like we're coming from a, from a scientific, technical standpoint, technical angle with something that is new people scratching their head, kind of thinking, is it true?

And I'm just saying, step back here. Everybody has seen that their product is repairing. Everybody has seen that when you pass 30, you get into your 40s, you don't repair as fast, you don't recover as fast. It is just the proof to you in your own life that you do have stem cells, they decline over age, and in later part of your life, as you start developing problems, it's all caused because you don't have as many stem cells.

That's what we're talking about. Leveraging your body's innate ability to 

Dr. Brandon Crawford: repair. That's absolutely beautiful. And, you know, I love the solution here. It's fantastic. You know, just for everyone listening, my patients, my audience, everyone like I, I love this product line. I wouldn't have this conversation if I don't.

I think everyone knows how I feel and, and, you know, why I'm doing what I'm doing. I truly want to change global health care. You know, I, I, I fully support you guys. Like, let's, let's start using these products. Let's start you know, improving your, your lifestyle factors. Like what Christian was talking about earlier.

There's so many things that can be done here to improve overall health and wellness. Of course. Talk with your doctor, make sure it's a good fit for you guys as always. But man, I've really enjoyed this conversation. This has been highly enlightening. In fact, as soon as I sign off here, I'm going to go take my second dose of Stemmergen for the day, which I will admit Sometimes I forget because I get busy and so I don't always get my, my midday dose in.

So I'm going to make sure and do that today. But man, I really appreciate your time. I appreciate your knowledge, all the things that you're doing in the world. Thank you so very much. My pleasure. If you're into exploring the latest in health and brain optimization, check out my other episodes of the longevity formula.

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I'm personally taking these products. I want to make sure that my loved ones are personally taking these products. My patients are taking these products. This is just, there, there's no reason not to in my opinion. We do have a link that you can, you know, go and check out the products and order and really get started on these things and that is STEM region, so S T E M R E G E N.

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