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The Stem Cell Breakthrough: Autism, Brain Injury & Chronic Pain Solutions with Christian Drapeau

• Dr. Brandon Crawford • Season 2 • Episode 46

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In this episode of 'The Longevity Formula,' Dr. Brandon Crawford discusses the transformative potential of STEMREGEN®, a product designed to increase stem cell production. Joined by Christian Drapeau, a pioneer in the stem cell field, they explore how STEMREGEN® has shown promising results in improving conditions like autism, brain injuries, and chronic pain.

The discussion covers the integration of STEMREGEN® with other clinical practices such as photobiomodulation, hyperbaric oxygen therapy, and PEMF, emphasizing the importance of increasing stem cells for better health outcomes. Dr. Crawford shares numerous success stories, including nonverbal kids starting to speak and severe cases showing significant improvement. The episode offers detailed guidance on how to introduce and utilize STEMREGEN® effectively in various therapeutic settings.


Key Takeaways

  • STEMREGEN® Impact on Health: Discover how increasing stem cells in the body with STEMREGEN® has shown significant improvements in conditions like autism, brain injuries, and chronic pain through better mobility, coordination, and verbalization.
  • Complementing Therapies for Better Outcomes: Learn how combining STEMREGEN® with other therapies such as photobiomodulation, hyperbaric oxygen therapy, and PEMF enhances treatment effectiveness, leading to faster and more substantial patient recoveries.
  • Patient Education and Compliance: Understand the importance of educating patients about the benefits of increased stem cell production and how committing to a three-month trial period can significantly improve their health outcomes.
  • Clinical Success Stories: Hear about remarkable cases like Millie, a child with a severe brain disorder, who showcased significant improvements in motor functions and vocalization with the use of STEMREGEN®, demonstrating its potential in severe medical conditions.
  • Optimizing Dosage for Maximum Benefits Learn the benefits of adapting STEMREGEN® dosage, such as taking it more frequently throughout the day, to maximize therapeutic effects and improve repair mechanisms in conditions requiring acute attention.


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Christian Drapeau: People start to have better mobility, better coordination, better eye contact, better social interaction, better uh, verbalization, 

Dr. Brandon Crawford: Millie, she has, uh, a rare genetic brain disorder and a large percentage of her brain was not present, was not developed. So it was a really severe situation. So we started working with her.

We did some regenerative procedures. We did have Stemregen, and so we started giving her a half a cap of release. And everyone's been amazed. I mean, she's working on crawling now. She's, she's vocalizing, she's talking. Wow. But there is a span, six or eight weeks where every week we were having a nonverbal autistic kid start to speak.

And so I started to analyze that and I'm like, they're all on stemregen. 

Christian Drapeau: If you do have more stem cells in circulation, your body will utilize them for repair. 

Dr. Brandon Crawford: Whatever you're doing, if you pair it with Stemregen, you're just going to get better outcomes. Really, it's, it's a no brainer. It's been a big game changer in our clinical observations.

Voice Over: Welcome to the Longevity Formula with Dr. Brandon Crawford. Let's explore the new era of wellness. 

Dr. Brandon Crawford: Hey everyone. Welcome back to the Longevity Formula. Today is a. Fun, uh, day we get to have an amazing individual, a highly intelligent individual, a pioneer, a trailblazer in the stem cell field. This is Christian Drapeau.

You might recognize him because we've had him on before and here's what happened. So many people tune into that episode and so many people have been trying the Stemregen product line that we have just been flooded with. Questions. And a lot of it has also been testimonies. A lot of people have said, man, thank you so much for doing that.

That was so much information. We started using this product for X, Y, and Z condition, and we've seen amazing results. What about this? What about that? And you know, we just start getting all these questions and so we thought, Hey, let's come together and let's have a little bit more clinical. Conversation about this amazing product line.

And so today what we're going to do, we're gonna flip it a little bit, right? And so Christian is going to actually ask me, uh, several different questions that are more clinically based. And so we're going to talk about the different demographics that we use, the product in, how we implement the product, and what to expect and all the different nuances, uh, that we as a clinical team get to see on a daily basis, right?

So this is going to be an amazing. Episode for you. If you suffer from some kind of chronic debilitating condition, or if you have something like autism or brain injury or chronic pain syndrome, or any of that kind of stuff, we may dive into epilepsy, uh, and seizure disorders. So I'm really excited to have this conversation.

Christian, thank you so much for joining us today. 

Christian Drapeau: My pleasure. Thank you for, for taking the time to do this, uh, Brandon. 

Dr. Brandon Crawford: Absolutely. Thanks for having me. I agree. I think that a good. Clinical conversation is necessary for this product, right? Because of course you want to use it for health and wellness, you want to use it for longevity, you want to use it for health span.

All of that is true and I use it for that. Mm-hmm. Um, however, I am a clinician, right? I have multiple practices and I see a lot of different types of patients and anything that can improve outcomes for those patients and anything that is safe, we wanna look into. And so. When I started using the product line for myself, when my staff started using it, when my wife started using it, who's the ultimate use case?

Right? Because she's not gonna use anything that isn't working. Uh, and she started to report back to me. I was like, okay, there's something to this. And so we started to blend it in with a clinical practice, and the results have just been amazing. 

Christian Drapeau: So let, let's dive a little bit into the clinical practice.

Because the product was developed, Stemregen, the line was developed from a purely scientific standpoint. Mm-hmm. Like, I'm a researcher, I'm not a clinician. So when it comes to translate all of this scientific, scientific information into a clinical practice, how do you introduce the product to the patient, how to use it, uh, how to ensure compliance.

I mean, it's a whole. Bag of, of, of information or, or knowhow that I don't have. Right. And that's why I would like to, to dive into a little bit on, on, in, on, on all that with you before we get there. Tell a little bit about who you are, what you do, what's your clinic, because what you're doing is quite special.

Dr. Brandon Crawford: Absolutely. So, um, so my primary licensure is chiropractic. Uh, and I have a whole backstory about how I got into that. I was going into neurosurgery. Had a big faith led thing happen to me. And anyway, I, I got accepted to pharmacy school, ended up going to chiropractic. It was a big God thing. I'm, I'm exactly where I'm supposed to be, but I knew, you know, I wasn't supposed to be practicing chiropractic per se.

Um, and so that led me into the functional neurology field. And so I ended up, uh, obtaining a diplomate in functional neurology and then furthered my studies and got a fellowship in developmental functional neurology with a focus in childhood neurodevelopmental disorders. Um. And so my practice is all based around neuroplasticity.

Um, we are working with complex neurological disorders of all types. It'll be anything from moderate to severe to very severe brain injuries of all types, whether it's blunt force trauma, anoxic brain injuries, you name it, um, to severe autism cases, neurodevelopmental cases. Um, I myself struggled with Tourette's and OCD.

Uh, as a kid and then that, that is another driver of what led me into functional neurology, um, because nothing was really helping me. Uh, definitely traditional medicine was not helping me. Um, and, and even the holistic things I was doing was not helping and it, I really needed to find. Balance within my nervous system.

I needed to integrate and develop, um, my, my brain in a different way. And that, that is what led me, uh, largely into this concept of functional neurology. And so, um, within our practice, we, we also see some complex, uh, really severe pain syndromes. I mean, people that are close to amputation, uh, because of their pain syndrome and, and these types of things.

Uh, seizure disorders. We were talking about seizures, uh, before we started this. I never set out to treat seizures. That was not even in my purview. I wasn't, it wasn't even on my radar. But because of all the different types of, uh, specifically the brain injuries that were coming in, all of these patients were presenting with some type of seizure disorder.

And then going through our methods, going through the different things that we do. Everyone was, well, a large percentage of people were reporting back, Hey, seizures are improving. And so now that's one of the primary things that we work with are severe, uh, seizure disorders. And so we have this, we have this methodology, uh, that we've developed and it's working quite well and we're expanding and I'm actually teaching a new version of it right now.

Um, but that's in a nutshell what we do. So it's a developmental, functional neurology practice now. We also have to talk about photo biomodulation. Mm-hmm. Because, uh, that's, that's the other side. So just before we, we 

Christian Drapeau: dive into this, so your top five condition, you would say autism, epilepsy, migraine. 

Dr. Brandon Crawford: So, uh, so autism's huge.

Um. Seizure disorder. Absolutely. Brain injury is huge. I mean, I, I've written a book about brain injury and, and brain injury rehab as well. I mean, I, I got very, very deeply entrenched in the pediatric brain injury space especially, um, after that chronic pain syndromes. Um, so that's any type of chronic irretractable pain syndrome that can be, uh, CRPS, that can be migraine, that can be, uh, any of, any of those types of things.

So those, those are the primary, uh, demographics that are walking into our office right now. 

Christian Drapeau: Mostly children. 

Dr. Brandon Crawford: Um, heavy children. Okay. We, we still work with adults, right. And it kind of varies, right? So it's summertime right now, so our demographic shifts, you know, more 60, 70% pediatric. Mm-hmm. Um, once school starts back then we'll be closer to probably 60 40, heavier pediatric, maybe 50 50 at sometimes.

Christian Drapeau: Okay. Uh, so now let's dive back into what is really your expertise and a field in which you are. I would say a pioneer, if not the pioneer, which is photo biomodulation. Absolutely. Um, so say, say a little bit about, a little bit about 

Dr. Brandon Crawford: it. Yes. Um, absolutely. My passion has always, how did it start? Oh gosh.

Okay. Well, I was born in, uh, October 31st, 1985. Not, um, so, but honestly, even as a young child, I was always fascinated with lasers. I just was like, uh, I remember I had, um, a reconstructive chest surgery. I had a Pectus Care tum, um, and it was pretty prominent and it required surgical intervention. And I was in middle school, I was, I don't remember how old I was.

I was like sixth or seventh grade. Um, and my parents, it was gonna be a pretty extensive surgery. They said, get you anything. Do you want a new video game? Do you, what do you want after surgery? And I said, I want a laser pointer. And they were like. Okay. You're weird. We knew you were weird, but now we really know you're weird.

Uh, but I've always had this fascination. Um, so when I was going through my functional neurology training, um, I had the benefit of being, uh, mentored by the president of the functional neurology board. And because of that. I got to see firsthand some really interesting cases. And one of them was a rare pediatric, um, brain disorder.

It was where the brain does not develop properly. And I remember working with him, I'm like, man, this is a genetic disorder. What, what are we doing? What are we gonna do with them? And he said, well, we're gonna shine a laser on their head. And this was, uh, probably 17 years ago or something like that. So this wasn't something commonly done.

Mm-hmm. And I just remember thinking, man, this guy's crazy. Um, and so, and now you're the crazy. Exactly. Even crazier probably. Uh, and so we did, uh, and that kid developed quite well and I, I just remember going, man, there is something here. Um, so that's when my obsession with photo biomodulation really started.

And, you know, in functional neurology, uh, the big goal is neuroplasticity. So. Anything that can increase my chances of developing positive neuroplasticity faster, more effectively, more efficiently, I'm all in. And when you look at the research in photobiomodulation, you do, you see upregulation of BDNF, you see, uh, modulation of inflammation, you see better blood flow.

You see all these different metrics change that helps me to change a brain. And so it just made sense to combine something as safe and effective as photobiomodulation. With the type of brain rehab that we were doing. And that's exactly what happened. We just started seeing faster results, better results, et cetera.

And, you know, I started playing with it and I thought, man, it, it sure would be better if we had these metrics in the laser, if I could control the duty cycle more, uh, with more granularity. Or if I could, you know, if I could really, really. Target and control these metrics that I can't do this with other devices.

And so I started talking to, uh, CEOs of laser companies and saying, Hey, what if this, what if that? And they were like, yeah, it's a great idea. We're not gonna do it. You know? And finally I was like, man, I'm just have to make my own. And so for the past two years, um, I did partner up with, uh, an amazing guy.

His name's Kevin Johnson. He's a software engineer. Has a, a really great background. Um. He's worked on huge projects like CERN and uh, other things. Um, and we came together and we said, okay, there's a need. There's a, a hole to fill in the market. And we just started putting together a wishlist of what do we want this laser to be, if it could be better, and we could imagine.

And we did that and we built a team of engineers. And honestly, like the optical engineering team. They were like, Brandy, you can't take a laser with that kind of power and produce the, the, uh, safety class that you're trying to produce that that hasn't been done before. We don't, we don't do that. And, and we said, well, we're gonna do it.

And so, uh, so they did it, you know, it took a long time. But finally through using six different diffusers and designing the optical system, the, the way that we have, we've produced a very. Powerful laser, yet a very safe laser. And that was key, right? Because we want this to be strong enough for the clinic, strong enough for these really complex conditions, but safe enough for home use as well.

And that's what we developed. So it's been a long journey. We're not done. We're still developing. We're still, you know, even we were talking about some different iterations mm-hmm. And things that we could work on further from here. Um, but it's been very eye-opening and very fun. 

Christian Drapeau: So it's a laser that. You can use different wavelength.

Mm-hmm. You can use different intensity. You can cycle it and pulse it in different ways. Mm-hmm. And when it's all programmed properly, you basically just apply it to an area of the body. You work in neurology, so a lot of it is on the head. Mm-hmm. But you can apply it like on the head, on on the ral column, different places of the body.

And then the light essentially goes through the skin as an effect. Inside the body. Yes. Essentially that's what it 

Dr. Brandon Crawford: is. Absolutely. And the wavelength selection, uh, there's a lot of information that goes into that. Uh, ultimately a primary target for photobiomodulation is the mitochondria. Right? And so we know we have the electron transport chain, uh, and that's where electrons are passed from one complex to the, to another.

Ultimately generating a TP, which is the fuel for our cell. So in chronic health issues, whether it be, you know, a brain injury or an autoimmune disease or whatever, right? Chronic health issues, you're gonna see, uh, more mitochondrial inefficiencies. And so those complexes are getting further apart, uh, and those electrons are not as efficient, going from one complex to another.

And so we need waves. We need strategies that can improve mitochondrial efficiency. So when I use the red wavelength right, that we have a red 6 38 nanometer wavelength. This improves cytochrome sea oxidase, uh, efficiency. So it helps actually carry these electrons more effectively through the electron transport chain.

And it makes the fo head of the a TP synthesis at the end of the electron transport chain spin at a faster rate. A healthy, uh, spin rate is around 7,000 RPM. As that mitochondrial inefficiency, uh, continues to progress, you get slower and slower spin. And so it slows down how fast those electrons, uh, are going through there.

But then the infrared, so the invisible wavelengths, um, those can actually help increase the hydration of the cell. So that's important because. We need to produce what's called structured water or exclusion zone water in our cell, um, from our mitochondria. It's actually from complex four, and this helps the cell heal faster.

And you also need it just to segue, uh, into the stem cell discussion. You also need proper hydration for proper protein expression, right? So you can, you know, you have this, uh, this internal construction site going on, right? And your stem cells are driving that and helping develop new tissues and regenerating.

But if you're dehydrating, you're not producing enough cellular water, right? Those proteins are not being expressed as effectively as it could be. So there's several different reasons that we need to do this, and in today's world. One consideration is all the exposure of non-native EMF actually dries up our ability to hydrate our cell.

It's like putting a stake in a microwave, dries it out. Well, that's going on in our cells as well. So there's other targets. There's like, I could go on for an hour here. Uh, but yes, you know, that's what we're trying to do is drive cellular. Energy, uh, production more efficiently so that that cell can do whatever it needs to do better and more efficiently.

So if it needs to heal, produce a neurotransmitter, whatever it's doing, it's going to do it better if we get the correct wavelengths of light and then we modulate that light even more. Right? We, again, setting the duty cycle, the frequency, all of these different things is like modulating your voice. So you're talking to that part of the body more specifically and targeted.

Christian Drapeau: Okay, well you've got ton of exp, tons of experience applying that laser in all kinds of conditions. Um, but let's talk about. What happened first, why you start to, to introduce Stemregen into the protocol and the kind of results that that, that you obtained. Uh, before we get there, for anybody who is new to Stemregen, just a few words about what it is.

So it's a blend of plant extract. So this is 25 years of work, uh, a blend of plant extract that have all been documented to act in the body as stem cell mobilizers. So you take two capsules of Stemregen and within about two, three hours. We can quantify using flow cytometry, uh, roughly about an average of 10 million additional stem cells in circulation.

So, uh, 10 million. You do this, let's say once or twice a day for a month. Well, it's 300 to 600 million of your own stem cells that have been released. So the, so the impact can become very quickly. Quite significant. Uh, we've added two additional product to this mobilize and signal, uh, simply because when stem cells are being released, they don't always reach the fine, uh, capillary bed of an area that has a chronic condition.

Oftentimes, we have a chronic condition it does not repair, and yet the body continues to release stem cells naturally. So why are stem cells not going in that area to repair? Oftentimes the chronic nature of the problem has damage microcirculation so. Is a, a blend of four technologies that are going to really improve and boost, um, capillary circulation.

Uh, the, the other product signal is to reduce background noise. Inflammation should always be localized. It's released by an injury. It is calling for repair. It's meant essentially to attract stem cells to that area so stem cells can repair, but if it's not repaired for whatever reason, it becomes chronic.

It becomes systemic inflammation, and that's noise in the bloodstream and it kinds, kind kinds of, uh, of, uh, sort of messes up with stem cells ability. To really identify where the problem is, uh, where they need to migrate. So by suppressing this background noise, stem cells can better see where they need to go.

And by opening the microcirculation with mobilized, then we really give access, uh, to stem cells to all the areas where they need to go. So it's a protocol. We don't have to use it as a protocol, but essentially there's the protocol of release mobilizing signal. So, in a nutshell. So how did you first got, uh, in touch with Stemregen that you talked about, your wife and some people in your, uh, in your, in your clinic using it?

Dr. Brandon Crawford: Yes. Um, well, uh, the honest story, um, is I was at, I don't know if, I think this was maybe a, I don't know, it wasn't the last Biohacker conference, maybe the one before. I think it was two, two conferences ago. Y'all were there, we were there representing the laser. And um, I'll be honest, I looked at it, I was like, man, that's just another product on the market.

They, it's a beautiful product. Like mm-hmm. Great, you know, design and all this. And I was like, eh, whatever. Right? And then, um, I kept on getting questions about it, like, Hey. Hey, Crawford, let's, let's look at this, let's look at this. And I'm like, man, another product. I mean, you know, as a, as a clinician, like we get, of course I do the same.

Yeah. We get people in the office, we get emails, all this all the time. Like, hey, free samples, like all this kinda stuff. And so I was, yeah, I was a little skeptical just 'cause I'm getting hit all the time, right? And so, um. Actually it was Dr. Jerry, uh, Dr. Jerry Levine. Uh, you met in my office, uh mm-hmm before we came over here.

She's an integrative psychologist and she helps me out with our regenerative medicine procedures. Um, she goes, no, Brandon, look, they're claiming that they can increase your endogenous production of stem cells. Like they're saying that they can make you produce more stem cells. And I'm like. Okay, let's take a look at it.

And so, so I, you know, I, I walked over there, I think I had a conversation with someone, started reading about it and I was like, okay, this, this looks really good. And there's substance here. Um, like you guys were not just throwing out, you know, random claims and whatever, like a bunch of anecdotes there, there was actual, there was good science, there was good substance.

Um, and so I thought, okay, so I went ahead and ordered, um, a lot. I don't remember what the, you know, whatever order I did and I always tested on myself. I test on my family, the staff, et cetera. We don't go straight to patients, of course. Um, and you know, one of the first reports back was Dr. Jerry. She was like.

I'm thinking more clearly. I feel amazing. My energy is up. My knee doesn't hurt anymore. Like she was giving me all this feedback and I'm like, that's amazing. Um, for me, I, I've had more energy. I, I had more mental clarity, et cetera, but the one that really got me was my wife, right? And anything that has a positive impact on her GI system, on her gut function, I'm all in.

Uh, because that, that is a true testament, uh, to that product for me. And there's really two products that have had a good, a good response for her. And it's, uh, St. Ergen and Fatty 15. And, and those are the ones that she comes back and she's like, man, I'm never not gonna take this. And so I was like, okay, there's something here.

And so we started getting more and more reports from the staff and from all the people around me using it. And I thought, okay, we have these, you know, debilitating conditions coming in. Why not upregulate their own stem cell production? Right? And so. We started to use it in the patient demographics and one of the first demographics, and it's a larger demographic that we have, is autism.

Mm-hmm. Um, and so we started to use it, uh, with those patients and I just remember, you know, there wasn't anything like immediate. Right. Of course, this is something that we're working with someone over a longer period of time, but there is a span, I don't remember exactly how long, six or eight weeks, something like that, where every week.

We were having a nonverbal autistic kid start to speak and I was like, man, this is great. Mm-hmm. And so I started to analyze that, right? And I'm like, they're all on Stemregen, they're all taking release. Um, I. There's gotta be something to this. Um, and so that's been huge for them. But then also with our brain injury cases, um, we just see faster recovery, faster progress.

Um, whether it's mild, moderate, or even the really severe cases, we're just seeing faster rehab progress. Um, the chronic pain patients are responding. Everyone is responding better, right? Mm-hmm. And so it was one of those things where we just kind of dipped our toe in the water and. You know, now we're neck deep, uh, because now, uh, we do regenerative procedures, right?

We do a laser activated plasma procedure where we're targeting the V cells. Um, and it just made sense. It's like, okay, if we're using someone's own V cells, why not increase the count before we pull our blood, before we produce the plasma? And so now when you do the procedure, you come in the morning of, you take ergen.

It just makes sense. Mm-hmm. Um, and of course we're getting better results and we're telling people, if you continue to take this and we tell them at least for three months, say at least commit to a three month process, that's what we tell 'em. Um, you're, you're more than likely, I can't guarantee anything, but you're more than likely going to see better results, faster results.

And that's what we continue to see, um, with our dementia cases. 'cause we do see, uh, various forms of dementias as well. I, yeah. Not in children. Not in children, no. This is, you know, older, uh, in adults. Um. You know, one of the main drivers, uh, in especially frontotemporal dementia, uh, is vascular. Mm-hmm. Right?

We see vascular compromise. We start to see atrophy in areas like the hippocampus and, and whatnot. Um, so one of the first things I'll do with those patients is put them on mobilize love, mobilize for, mm-hmm. For dementias and, and for, uh, of course we still want them on release. Uh, we still want them on, you know, all the things.

But, um. But that's been a great product for that demographic. Um, signal's interesting. It took me a while to kind of figure out a clinical use case for Signal. Of course, anyone with inflammation, right? Mm-hmm. I mean, essentially. Um, but I have seen that people with autoimmunity. Seem to do very well with Signal and I have Hashimoto's, and so I'm, I'm in that, uh, that, that category.

Um, and so, you know, we're, we're starting to see different clinical pearls for each of these products. Now, what else, of course have to say is everyone, we, everyone needs the release, right? Because that's the one that increases the correct. The stem cell production. And so, um, with seizure disorders, right?

And we were talking about seizure disorders. Um, we're always slower, you know, we go slower, we work slower, we don't want to cause transient in increases. We don't wanna spike seizures, all this kind of stuff. Um, they've tolerated release very well. Um, and if, if someone, you know listening has a severe seizure disorder, you know exactly what I'm talking about, where you can take.

You know, any kind of vitamin and it may throw your system off, you might start having seizures. Um, but we've got people on release that have really severe seizure disorders, and I have not seen really a deleterious effect. I've only seen, uh, positive outcomes so far. I have not been able to see where it's causing a transient rise in spikes or anything like that.

Um, so it really is becoming that product where across the board it's like, man, you want to heal faster. You want to heal more effectively, let's get you on release. Let's get you using this product because honestly, it has just produced better outcomes. 

Christian Drapeau: Do you have a case that comes in mind that would be like, like, like an exceptional case, just to give an idea of mm-hmm.

What it is that we're talking about here in terms of improvements? 

Dr. Brandon Crawford: Yeah. Well, the one that comes to mind, uh, is Millie. Um, she has, uh, a rare genetic, uh, brain disorder. It's called a lobar holo pro cephalic. Um, and we started working with her before we had Stemregen, um, and, and we got results. We got good. I mean, she was, you know, at like six months old, sent, sent home to die, right?

It was like, Hey. Go get on hospice, uh, you know, you're not gonna see much. I mean, you know, a, a large percentage of her brain was not present, was not developed. It was just void space in her skull. Um, I. So it was a really severe situation. So we started working with her, started doing our rehab methods. We did some regenerative procedures.

She did better than expected, um, when she came back to us, right? Because we work with someone for a period of time, usually several weeks or maybe a month or something like this. We make a home care plan, they go home, they continue to do therapies, and they come back, right? Once they kind of hit a plateau or whatever the follow-up strategies are.

Um, and so when she came back, uh, we did have Stemregen at that point in time, and she was young. I mean, she was probably, you know, a little over a year old. Um, and so we started giving her a half a cap of release. Um, and we kept her on it. And, um, the jump in functionality was greater. Right. That was, and everyone's been amazed.

I mean, she's working on crawling now. She's, she's vocalizing, she's talking. Wow. She's, I mean, and these, I mean, she was sent home to die and, and if you look up, you know, she was a severe case of Alo Bar holo Pros, cephalic. This is not expected in this condition. Um, so she's a, a great one that I can talk about.

Um, autism, autism. I, it's, there's multiple, lemme say that much. Uh, there's multiple. Um, I love the product for autism. Um, it seems to accelerate. The progression as we're, we're working through primitive reflex integration, we get better, faster integration, we see better functional gains, and so we'll see improved social engagement.

Uh, eye contact happens faster. Um, reduction in startle reflexes and arose and all this kind of stuff, uh, improves faster. The development of the vagal system happens faster. Uh, and then, like I said earlier, right, we have a lot of nonverbal cases. Um, and I mean, look, I can't say put your kid on. You know, this product and they're gonna speak, right?

Because we're doing multiple things. However, uh, I do, I do believe just clinically my own perspective, that as we have had more and more people, uh, with autism, nonverbal autism, uh, on Stemregen, I have seen people start to speak faster. So I do think that there's a correlation there. 

Christian Drapeau: Mm-hmm. We've, we've seen it.

We don't have a study, uh, but we have clinics that use that, that, that have used Stemregen. And the, the, the, the comments that we have had, uh, are. People start to have better mobility, better coordination, better eye contact, better social interaction, better uh, verbalization. Uh, we have a kid, for example, uh, the father was sharing it one day.

The kid came back from school and there was a note from the teacher and asking the, the parents like, what is different with him, because he's now starting to write and read at school. Mm-hmm. Which he had not. Never done before. Yeah. So those kinds of stories we get back, but I don't have a clinical setup to document any of it.

Right. So that's part of what we will start to do, start to document these cases because we need to, we need to let parents know because, uh, if, if it can really help their kids. I mean, we have to, we have to make it known. 

Dr. Brandon Crawford: Absolutely. And just to kind of. You know, add on to that conversation is, uh, the safety profile, right?

Mm-hmm. Because, uh, of course that's always top of mind, uh, with us is, you know, we can add something, but what is, what's the risk, the benefit, uh, ratio here? Um, I have not seen, uh, you know, bad side effects. I've not seen any kind of thing that it's like, Hey, start taking this, but watch out for X, Y, ZI, I haven't really seen that.

The, the only thing, this is funny, um, so when I spoke to you. I think you're on my podcast. And I said, okay. As you know, a pioneer in this space and developer of the product, how much do you take? And I think you said six three times a day or something like that. Right? I I did 

Christian Drapeau: do that for a while. Yeah. 

Dr. Brandon Crawford: Uh, and I was like, all right, six, three times a day.

So I started taking handfuls of, of release. I was, I was jittery. I was like, which, you know, I had a ton of energy, but I was like, oh my gosh. I, it is like, I just. Did 12 shots of espresso. Um, and so, you know, I, I do tell some people that are more sensitive, um, Hey, you know, this is what happened to me. I got a little jittery.

I reduced my dose two, three times a day is a good, sweet spot for me. Mm-hmm. Uh, if I have a really important meeting or I'm really tired, uh, maybe I'll take three, you know, and I, I don't get jittery or whatever. Um. But I've had the same report, right? I've had people say like, yeah, I took four and I got a little jittery, so I'll just take three.

You know? Um, so the safety profile's amazing. Mm-hmm. Uh, that's all I wanted to communicate is, um, you know, if you are listening and you have an autistic kid or someone with, you know, whatever condition, of course. Speak to your medical provider. Never don't want you to do that. Right? Always want you to communicate to your medical providers, but this is a real, mm-hmm.

A really safe product, uh, to trial. 

Christian Drapeau: And I'm thinking as you. As we talk about children, compliance is less of an issue, I'm assuming, because you talk to the parents and then the parents are oftentimes very motivated to do this with their kids, I'm assuming. Yeah. So if so, if we want to see with practitioners, how can they make, I.

Their patients, adult patients, more compliant. Like what is with your adult patients, uh, what is the best way to introduce the product? Uh, explain it to the patients and, and what have you done that, what have you found that works very well to make sure that they're compliant. 

Dr. Brandon Crawford: Okay. So, yes. So for the, for the adult population, they have to understand why they're taking it because there's so many products on the market.

Mm-hmm. I mean, we'll get people that are on. 30, 40 different supplements and medications and all these things. So there is this need for education just to kind of break through the noise. Um, and so I'll tell people I. Hey, look, this is like your own internal, uh, rebuilding program. This is your construction team, right?

So if you are living life, you are, you know, you're, you go for a run, well, you just cause some tissue damage and you have these stem cells that are produced in your body that migrate to these sites and repair and rebuild, right? And I'll explain this from this perspective too. If you have a building. And it's just, it's just there and people are working in it and whatever, over a period of time, say 20 years, 30 years, whatever, it's gonna need some repairs, it's gonna need, you know, it's gonna have some issues.

So. What do you do? You, you have a construction team that comes in and they repair it, and they rebuild it and all this kind of stuff, right? Well imagine as you age, right? It, we don't produce our stem cells as much. We start to re reduce our production. Um, and then if you have a chronic condition, um, there's some reports that say, Hey, you don't produce stem cells as well, or maybe you need more.

Right? And so I just tell people this. This product line has been proven, um, and it actually does increase the number of stem cells flowing through your blood. So we're literally giving you more construction team members to go and repair your systems, right. So that's number one is coming up with a good strategy to really educate the patient.

'cause they really need to understand it. But number two, um, I give them a definitive timeline. Mm-hmm. I'll tell them, Hey, I want you to trial this for three months. And I say three months, right? That's what that, and that's just the, the timeframe, number one, it correlates with some of our regenerative procedures.

Uh, but number two, I want them to have a long enough, uh, exposure so that, 'cause what's gonna happen is this, they're gonna take it for three months, they're gonna stop and, or most people, right? Uh, and they're gonna, they're gonna stop. And then all of a sudden, you know, maybe two weeks go by, four weeks go by and they reach out and they go, Hey.

I felt a lot better when I was taking this product. Can I start it again? Absolutely. Um, because honestly, I mean, from my perspective, why would you stop, right? I mean, I take it every day. Um, and especially if someone is healing from something mm-hmm. Or a chronic condition, autism, whatever it may be. Why not take it on a daily basis, uh, and continue to increase your stem cell production and then increase the ability for them to, uh, to mobilize and to, you know, not be so inflamed and all of these things.

That just makes sense. Um, and so. From our perspective, the product does the work. Um, we just have to educate the patient and then we give them, uh, a definitive timeline and then they start taking it, and then they feel the difference. I haven't had anyone, I mean, I'm trying to think right now. I don't think I've had anyone that took the product and they were like, nah, I don't like it.

Uh, I didn't feel good on it or whatever, right? Mm-hmm. We typically get some type of response from that patient, whether they feel better, they have better mental clarity, less brain fog, fatigue, pain goes down, uh, whatever it is. They typically feel some type of, uh, some type of progress, some type of result, which when you're dealing with, uh, these, you know, more involved, more complex cases, um, the caregivers mm-hmm.

Whether it is a mom, a dad, nurse, uh, whoever it may be. They're stressed out too. And so when we're talking to parents and caregivers, right, we're talking about the patient. We do. I think we do a good job. We turn to the parent and we say, you need to be on this too. 'cause chronic stress bathes the brain in cortisol and starts to shrink all these networks.

And how's your memory? How's your stress response? Right? And they're like, oh yeah. Well, what are you doing for yourself? Nothing. Everything's going towards my kid. Okay. And so we're getting a lot of parents and caregivers using the product too because they need it. Alright? They're, they have this crazy stress response and, uh, they need support too.

Christian Drapeau: How do you integrate? And again, it's probably more to your adult population because kids will. Technically needed less, but the inclusion of Signal and Mobilize, how do you integrate that into, uh, like who do you recommend it to mm-hmm. And how do you explain it and, and the protocol that you provide them 

Dr. Brandon Crawford: with?

Yeah. Um, I, I probably lean heavier onto Mobilize than Signal personally. Um, but I think they're both fantastic. But I love mobilize again because of the fuel for delivery problem. And what I mean is. When I'm doing my clinical exam, right, and I've developed this, uh, whole, you know, from head to toe, we're looking at everything.

Um, one of the first things I check are the person's feet. Um, and it's interesting, you know, you can ask any of my interns, right? The first thing I do is, okay, take your socks and shoes off. And I start looking at their feet. Um, and I'm looking for any kind of vascular compromise. Is there swelling any ankles?

Do I see varicosities? Do I see any? Microcirculation issues like little petechiae, little spider veins. Um, is there any pitting, edema? Uh, what's the health of their, uh, toenails? Is there fungus? Is there overgrowth? Is there something there? What's the capillary refill time? If we have blood flow changes in the feet, I guarantee you, you have blood flow issues in the brain.

Um, and so. If I see any signs of blood flow challenges, any kind of autonomic tone, disruptions or anything like that, I'm leaning into mobilize because look, if I'm gonna fire a network in the brain, it has to have blood flow. Of course, if, if you don't have it, you're sunk. Uh, you're not gonna deliver your oxygen, your nutrients, nothing.

Uh, so you're dead in the water. So we have to address those metabolic concerns upfront, right? And so that's where I'm leaning into Mobilize, uh, more and more, um, signal. Again, I, I love signal for autoimmunity. Uh, so we check for neurological autoimmunity. Um, and if we have, uh, positive findings there or if we're working with like an Ms.

Case or a LS or something like this, um, then I'm leaning into Signal more. Um, now when I say that I still have 'em on release. Um, and am I still getting 'em on all three products? If, if they can, yes. I mean, you know, there's a lot of things we're trying to do and accomplish. Everything has a price tag. So, you know, sometimes finances are limited or they're already taking 35 different things.

And so those are variables too. Um, but mobilize, I love for improving circulation, micro vasculature, et cetera. I love the nattokinase in it. Mm-hmm. I'm a huge fan of proteolytic enzymes. Um, I think that's fantastic. Um, and then signal, I love for the autoimmune disorders, uh, or if, if there's just a, you know, this huge inflammatory response in the person they need to be.

On that. Anyway, uh, so those are my different use cases and how I navigate that. 

Christian Drapeau: So in your clinic, so we talked about the laser. So this is sort of your, your own development. Mm-hmm. So this is proprietary to you, but you're also using other technologies, like I saw that in your clinic you have, uh, hyperbaric chamber.

Mm-hmm. You have pulse, electromagnetic magnetic frequencies, you have obviously red lights in different formats. Um, what has been, because there's a great synergy. Uh, with Stemregen and a lot of these modalities mm-hmm. Uh, you take hbo, you take PMF, their main benefit is through leveraging stem cells in the body.

So the moment you release more stem cells, then you get even a better outcome of using these technologies. So what has been your experience of blending or seeing the, the, the added benefit, uh, with Stemregen when using these other modalities? 

Dr. Brandon Crawford: Yeah. Well, so you mentioned hbo. Um, that I'll go there first.

Um, so going back to Millie's story, right, we added, um, some hyperbaric oxygen use for Millie as well. Um, we actually have a, a protocol, uh, that was taught to us by Ed Bets. Uh, really smart guy is one that developed the unit that we use. He came in, teach my staff, uh, everything. He actually set up the whole system.

I mean, this guy's amazing. Um, but he taught us a dosing strategy where it increases stem cells in the brain. I thought, okay. So we combine that with Stemregen, uh, for Millie, right? So we'll give, um, give her that half a cap, uh, of Stemregen, um, a couple of hours before she gets in the chamber, before we start working with her in the office.

Um, again, just to increase the endogenous production of the stem cells. Um, great way to pair it with Hyperbarics, in my opinion. And we've seen, uh, good progress with that. Um. Going back to the story of photo biomodulation, right? We know that certain wavelengths of light will help to home, uh, cells, um, and will also help with differentiation of cells.

So again, if I'm working with the brain, um, well, I want to fire these networks before I use a laser on them, right? To increase my specificity, increase, you know, my, my targeting of those networks. Um, well, I. It just so happens that certain wavelengths of light will help differentiate those cells into neurons.

Um, and so obviously it makes sense if we're trying to regenerate, trying to rehab a brain to increase your own endogenous production before we start doing therapy. Uh, that way we're activating the networks, doing our therapy, doing our rehab strategies. But there's more cells then that are migrating into the area, and I'm using the wavelengths that's helping those differentiate into neurons.

Um, so that strategy is huge. Is huge. Um, and then, yeah, with different, uh, electrical strategies like PEMF, I know Dr. Jerry's a big. Proponent of PEMF. Mm-hmm. Uh, I love it as well. Uh, and that's a great synergist synergistic, um, component with, uh, with St. Stemer and, uh, great for chronic pain. Great. I mean, really take your stemer and lay on A-P-E-M-F mat.

Uh, the results are phenomenal and better than if you just do the PEMF alone. Um, I do absolutely love, uh, soft wave. Um, what is soft wave? Soft wave is a more advanced form of shockwave therapy. Mm-hmm. Um, so shockwave, uh, sound, 

Christian Drapeau: is it? Sound, 

Dr. Brandon Crawford: so there's an acoustic version, but then the version before then was mechanical.

Mm-hmm. And so there would be this mechanical, uh, movable piece that would fire and then slam into, you know, a component part. And then that energy force produced would go into the body. Well, it hurts, right? I mean, you're just sitting there, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, right? I mean, it hurts. Uh, so I'm not gonna use that on the brain.

It's gonna cause, you know, microtraumas and, and whatnot. So I don't use it on the brain. The acoustic version is better, but then soft wave actually produces a burst of plasma. So you get this bright explosion of plasma out of this head that they created, and it goes through fluid. Right. And so as light slows down, it creates an acoustic wave.

So this is literally lightning and thunder is what it is. Um, that then produces a shock wave. And so we actually have a brain protocol that we've developed over the past year, um, that's very effective. And one of the, um, effects of using soft wave and producing these shockwaves is you get an increase in local stem cell production.

So again, okay, if we're getting this effect and influence on stem cells, very targeted, well, let's increase our own endogenous supply, and of course we get better results, right? So I love pairing it with soft wave. Um, I mean, essentially I think the take home message is whatever you're doing right, whatever modality you're, you're doing, uh, you're using in your practice, if you pair it with Stemregen, you're just going to get better outcomes.

Christian Drapeau: So if we, if we summarize everything that you've shared, you, you just started there. 

Dr. Brandon Crawford: Mm-hmm. 

Christian Drapeau: Stem cells are your repair system, whatever you're doing, just put more stem cells in circulation and they will be leverage for repair. Mm-hmm. If you want to give somebody, you want to get good compliance and you wanna make sure that the person gets something out of it, you make them commit for three months.

So it's not a long, long-term commitment. You commit for three months and a lot of them, after three months, they'll just wanna stay on it. Yes. Um, and. If, uh, if you see any sign that there could be some deficiency in microcirculation, then you couple it with mobilize. Yes. And if anybody has any sign that there could be some form of a two immune issue in the body, you couple it with signal.

Yes. How often do you use the three of them, like stem gen release signals immobilize together? Do you start like your adult population on the, on the three? 

Dr. Brandon Crawford: Yes. Okay. Yeah. So if someone comes in with like a mild to moderate TBI, absolutely. Boom. There you go. Um, and, and I think that's probably the ideal scenario.

Um, again, if finances are limited, if you know they're trying to do all these other things at once, then I make sure to get them on release. Um, and again, if, if blood flow is a problem, then I'm. I'm pretty stern about the mobilize as well. Um, but yeah, ideal scenario, we start 'em on all of them, uh, in the pediatric population, you know, for signal.

Uh, we might start 'em on like half a tab, ground up, you know, mix it in some yogurt or something like that. Um, older kids, you know, one to two tabs. Uh, if they can swallow, great. If not, grind it up, put in something. Yogurt seems to be the, the best medium, uh, for that demographic. Um, but yeah, that, that's exactly how we do it.

Christian Drapeau: In kids like Millie, I'm thinking. And this is based on, again, I don't have clinical experience, but, but based on other clinics that we're working with in Europe, um, you might even want to try to go to, to this AFA capsule more than once a day. You could even go to up, to like, to two capsules in a day. Nice.

Okay. Yeah. And then to see, see what happened because we've seen the, the, the, the big step. When we start, we know it's dose dependent. So we've seen this, I mean, it's not documented in the study, but 25 years of working with these plants, it, it is definitely dose dependent. Not so much more taking more at once, but taking more throughout the day so that you send these waves of stem cells.

We've seen it. So it'd be interesting for you to, to try it and see, and see, um, if, if you, if you see further improvements. Um, anything else that we may have forgotten. 

Dr. Brandon Crawford: No, I mean, so you tell me. So timeframes, uh, so if I take two capsules right now, what's a timeframe to see that that peak benefit? 

Christian Drapeau: The peak benefit?

I mean, it's, it's so dependent on the protocol that we're using. Okay. So let me, let me blend all the information that I have. We know that stem cells, once they're released, will be in your bloodstream, an average of about an hour. So anywhere between six minute to six hours. So it's really a transient residence in your bloodstream.

Okay. They are released, they either migrate into a tissue or they go back to the bone marrow so they don't stay there forever. Mm-hmm. So the very fact that you always have stem cells in your bloodstream is, is, is the proof that you are releasing stem cells all the time. So it, it is a very natural process in your body to release stem cells.

So how many you have in your bloodstream today? Will dictate how well you can repair because it, it, it will like more stem cells in circulation, more are available to migrate wherever there's a need for tissue repair. So the idea is to send several waves throughout the day. So I would say that like, and we have cases, uh, example, we have a case of somebody.

Who had an injury, he was opening a floor with a round saw and the, and the saw bounce and landed on his thigh. Oh no. So you got a, this huge gash, it's a round saw. I mean, it's like torn tissue, about 10 inches long, about an inch deep. So it's muscles, skin, connective tissue, everything is torn. And uh, and he started to take two capsules every other hour.

And he would do this throughout the entire day. So he was told it would take him four to six weeks before he can stand on that leg, another four to six weeks before he can walk normally. And after eight days, he was walking, he was standing on that leg and after two weeks the scar was like this very fine scar, probably better than most c-section, uh, a little bit of yellow nest still on the skin.

Uh, but he was able to walk on that leg. Wow. It it just as a testament to simply say, yeah, if you do have more stem cells in circulation, your body will utilize them for repair. Our point of reference for repair is our life. Mm-hmm. And you have X number of stem cells, and that's just your point of reference.

The moment you boost that number of stem cells. Your body will experience like a, a, a completely different level of, of, of, of ability to, to repair. So I would think that the best way to tap into a, a product like Stemregen release is just to take it more often during the day to send more of these waves of stem cells rather than more at once.

Dr. Brandon Crawford: That's amazing. Okay, so I didn't know, I'm gonna start trying this with patients so I can start having people do one or two tabs. Uh, or capsules. Mm-hmm. Uh, every hour, every two hours, something. So I, I haven't tried that strategy yet. I like it. I think this is a, a really cool strategy. I mean, 

Christian Drapeau: upfront when there's an injury, or I Sure I will, I will even go as far as to say, whenever you do a laser treatment mm-hmm.

That has mm-hmm. High impact. Mm-hmm. If you're not on the nervous system on that day. Maybe you take the patient now and you just say, okay, two capsules, and scale them up, let's say every four hours during the day. Nice. Something like that. I'd be very curious to see what you see. 

Dr. Brandon Crawford: Well, we're gonna start doing it.

One question that comes to mind. Um, eczema. Mm-hmm. It's hard. It's a hard condition. I. So many people have, and there's so many variables, whether it's gut, it's autoimmune, it's all these different things. Do y'all have any kind of stories coming in on Exon? We 

Christian Drapeau: do, but like you said, my, my, what I'm going to tell you is there's a huge caveat.

Mm-hmm. Meaning the story of that person. It could, could be like so different from the story of a lot of other people because it's very multifactorial. Sure. Uh, there's a, there's a huge, uh, emotional component if you want mm-hmm. With, with the, with these kinds of conditions. But we have seen, for example, uh, we have a professor at University of, uh, the Philippines in Manila.

And, uh, and. I was working with a doctor in oncology, a surgeon, and I was sharing product with him. He, he, he, he used it for a lot of cases, so he shared with me a lot of these cases, and that was one of his colleague, one of his friend who was a professor at university. He had had eczema his entire life, or psoriasis one of the two, but his entire life, nothing could help.

And he shared with him the product and then within a matter of what. Four to six weeks, everything left Wow. In his body. So they wanted to do a study. Yeah. So we started to plan to do a study. It did not materialize for various reasons, but, but here's a case. Mm-hmm. We have seen these cases and he was, he was a physician.

Yeah. So we have seen these cases over the years. Uh, we have not done any studies just because of the complexity Yeah. Of the nature of a condition like this. Sure. It's not easy. When you want to have inclusion, exclusion criteria to just make sure that you have a population that has something like that is very homogeneous in terms of, of what is it that we're going to look at.

Okay. Uh, there's gut issues, emotional, there's so many different things. Sure. So we have not studied it. Yeah. But we have seen a number of cases over the 

Dr. Brandon Crawford: years. Yeah. I know how stubborn eczema can be. My my own kiddo, you know, he'll get flares of it and we have to work really hard to get him outta that flare.

And then he'll be fine for a period of time, and then something happens and it's like, oh my gosh, what happened? Was it a exposure to something? Was it his gut? Again, like, it's just like banging your head against the wall, so mm-hmm. Uh, this is something I have not had him do, and so that's why I asked. So this is something we'll start doing.

Do 

Christian Drapeau: you, I mean, a lot of, I'm not a clinician. Mm-hmm. So purely from, from more like reading the science, um, there's a lot of link with the gut. Yes. In, in any of these skin problems, have you ever heard of something called song Greater Drago? No song. The Drago is a, is a sap like. Once I, once I have some time, some, some freedom, uh, I would like to go and develop that product because it is on the marketplace, but it's not present in a form that makes it easy to really use for all kinds of application.

But it's a sap that is coming from a tree, uh, called the, the name of the tree is Croton. Lele. It's Sangre, the Drago blood of the dragon in Spanish. So you, you use your knife, you just strike the bark with your knife and the sap comes out like blood. And that's why they called it Blood of the Dragon. Wow.

So if I, if I. Put some sap on my finger and I show you my finger. You think that I just cut myself. Okay. So it's, it's like blood. If you apply it on an open wound that is bleeding, I mean bleeding a lot within about a second or two. It's all, it stops bleeding. There's a almost like a plastic film. It's like almost like the protein of the blood.

All coagulates co ls and forms this plastic film. It stops bleeding, the pain goes away, and if you keep applying it, give it about seven to 10 days and it's completely healed with no scar. Uh, so this is, so they use it in the jungle for any of those sort of open wounds. Mm-hmm. But what kind of open wounds do we have in our Western society?

It's ulcers. 

Dr. Brandon Crawford: Yeah. 

Christian Drapeau: So, so it's been applied in ulcers. So you take that SAP blended in water, and within 10 days you can get rid of an ulcer. So I'm saying all of this because. I've used it, I've, I recommended it one day with a team that was dealing, uh, with autistic kids, but I don't think, they never really followed through with it.

But we know that, uh, in intestinal permeability yeah. Is a big issue in, in autism. It's a big issue in a lot of immune disease and it's a big issue for psoriasis or those kind, those kinds of skin issues. So I was just thinking. Maybe you give it a shot, get some Sangre, the Drago, uh, you can go, I mean, go on Amazon.

You, I think Rainforest is a company that has it, uh, it will come blended in alcohol with, uh, you take it with a dropper. It's liquid. I would like to do a form without alcohol. That's, that's what I would like to develop. Sure. But you just put it in hot water. The alcohol will flash in a few minutes and you dri you dry.

Maybe you drink maybe like a teaspoon dissolve. It has to be dissolved in water, uh, a teaspoon in water. Do this two, three times a day. And, uh, I'd be very curious to see what, what your son experiences. Well, I 

Dr. Brandon Crawford: can guarantee you we're gonna try it, so I'll give you information after. So for that, that, that's amazing.

Yeah. Thank you for that information. 

Christian Drapeau: So let's recap all of this again. So, so in summary, um. You start understanding that stem cells are the repair system of the body. Any patient that you have, you basically start. Release stem cells with Stemregen release if you can, if they're older patients, you start with the whole protocol with signal and mobilize.

Uh, if there's clear signs with circulation, you definitely focus on mobilize and you make them commit this for three months and then you add any other modalities that, that you're doing. And you're doing this right now with autism, with, uh, epilepsy, with, with all, basically you do this with all your patient base.

Dr. Brandon Crawford: Mm-hmm. Yes, absolutely. And we've seen just better outcomes. Uh, really, it's just, it's a no brainer, you know, for us, from our perspective, um, it's, it's been a big game changer in our clinical, uh, in our clinical observations. And, and 

Christian Drapeau: so you blend this again, understanding that it's, we are just boosting the innate ability of the body to repair.

Mm-hmm. Whatever that you're doing in your clinical, uh, setup in terms of intervention. You just add the repair system of the body on top of it and it just amplifies what you're doing. Absolutely. So anything that is being used, just uh, just give it a try. And again, uh, the best way to introduce it, make your patients commit for three months so that they can really see a difference of what this can do for them.

Mm-hmm. Uh, and uh, and oftentimes after that, they wanna stay on it because they see the difference that it, that it's doing for them. Absolutely. So if you are interested to try Stemregen, then Stemregen.co, Stemregen.co. And uh, Brendan, if they want to connect with you at your clinic, neuro solution atx.com right?

Dr. Brandon Crawford: You got it. Neuro solution atx.com. Absolutely. 

Christian Drapeau: Thank you so much, Brandon. 

Dr. Brandon Crawford: Thank you. Appreciate it. Alright everyone, I hope you enjoyed today's conversation. I know, I sure did. Um, it's not every day that I get to sit down with someone like Christian that's really pioneered and developed, uh, something like what he's done.

Um, and the interesting thing is, which we didn't really even get to dive into, is some of his ideas and things that he wants to develop in the future, which obviously we have a follow up, uh, podcast that we need to. Uh, to follow up with. But, um, if you know someone that can benefit from this information, please share this content.

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