The Longevity Formula

Can Bees Teach Us to Live Better? With David Bee Lolis

• Dr. Brandon Crawford • Season 2 • Episode 48

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This episode explores the fascinating intersection of nature, health, and fermentation with David Bee Lolis, founder of Hive₂O and Hard Honey. David discusses how he's reinventing the beverage industry by crafting clean, honey-based fermented drinks that bridge functional wellness with conscious consumption.

Listeners will discover what raw honey can teach us about immunity, adaptation, and natural wisdom, diving into its antioxidant, antibacterial, and anti-inflammatory properties, its lower glycemic impact compared to refined sugars, and its potential role in supporting brain health and longevity. The conversation also touches on the vibrational healing from beehives and the future of sustainable, health-forward refreshments.

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Dr. Brandon Crawford:

Wait, why are we talking about alcohol on a longevity podcast? Interesting question. Will today's guest build his own beehives, ferments honey, and is quietly reinventing what it means to have a drink. But more than that, he's asking the same questions. We are about health, nature, and the invisible stuff we consume every day. Honey a natural sweetener made by bees from flower nectar, is rich in antioxidants, vitamins, and minerals.


It's been shown to have antibacterial and anti-inflammatory properties and can help protect against cell damage linked to chronic diseases such as cancer and heart disease. Unlike refined sugars derived from sugar cane in sugar beets, which have no nutritional value, and a high glycemic index that causes rapid sugar spikes, honey generally causes a slower rise in blood sugar and offers additional health benefits.


This episode isn't just about alcohol or sweetness, it's a conversation about intention, sustainability, and what nature might be trying to teach us if we just slow down and listen. So whether you avoid alcohol entirely, sip occasionally, or want to think more deeply about what you put into your body, this conversation will shift your perspective. So David Wallace, thank you so much for joining us today.


I guess let's start. You know, you have a really interesting background. You're an ex poker player, and now you're a spare changing the world. And that. Frank, can you just kind of give us an overview? Who you are, where you come from?


David Bee Lolis:

Absolutely. So, yeah. David Lawless with the bee in the middle. Now, I've added David B Lois. More memorable. From the start. Serial entrepreneur. I look at the world, a lot like a bee through many, many eyes, looking at what the world needs. I got into beekeeping about ten, ten plus years ago and coincidentally finished playing poker at about the same time.


So my love for poker, which was great, kind of transitioned over to, my all in movements of, of of diving into the bee world. And so fascinating. I could I could do three days of podcasts on the, on how important bees are and how, how I mean, just the study of bees is just, just incredible.


David Bee Lolis:

So please, ask away. I'll try to fill you in. I'm not a doctor. I'm. I'm an enthusiast. I am passionate about everything I do, and I'm all in. When it comes to whether it was poker, you know, a decade ago or now, bees and how important they are to the planet.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

Absolutely. Well, we were we were kind of talking before, we started here. And so in, in my profession, functional neurology, we look at, muscle tone and we direct, you know, directly linked that to brain tone. I have a saying that brain tone equals muscle tone. And so something that I'll always look at when I'm examining someone is facial tone.


And I've always told people I've always had the thought process of me and the only other people on the face of the planet that, really recognize the facial tone and all these different nuances in the face, like a functional neurologist does, is a poker player. And so, you're actually drawing some correlations. With facial recognition in bees.


Can you kind of elaborate on that a little bit?


David Bee Lolis:

Absolutely, absolutely. So I recently learned probably in the last three years, the bees have a lot of, a lot of tools in the tool belt. And one of them is facial recognition. And their ability to see, in this case, a person, one time, just by hovering, quickly. Fraction of a second. They can actually remember your face.


David Bee Lolis:

Now, bees, whether, you know, people know this or not or not, like all, all other insects, they don't actually attack you unless you're, you know, attacking their hives or hurting their habitat trying to take their honey. And and but but if you, if you go near a hive or becomes you what's foraging it will look it will see.


David Bee Lolis:

It will recognize you and it'll put it in its databank, to remember you if you're hostile or not, if you're friendly or not. And that to me, is is incredible. And of course, you're right. When I play poker, one of the skills that you pick up, and you can really dive into the can continually evolve is is watching face.


David Bee Lolis:

Tones, you know, little muscles that move. Eye movement is very big. Eye movement is the easiest one. But there's there's, there's there's layers of what you can look for. Mouth twitches, nervous twitches. Just little tiny things. And then as you go from the face down, you can see body and tapping and, and then you look for patterns.


David Bee Lolis:

So it's all about patterns. And of course, bees are incredible. And their patterns and what they do from how they communicate with waggle dance. How they forage. I mean, it's endless.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

Yeah. No. That's fascinating. I'm curious, what do you think, about your intention as you're approaching a beehive? Right. So if someone is scared or, like, trying to, you know, obviously swatting the bees will irritate them. So you said doesn't count. But does intention matter when you're interacting with these bees?


David Bee Lolis:

It absolutely does. Yeah. So so the hive, what I call the hive mind because they work as a collective, they sense everything, obviously by sight. But, yeah, movement. Movement is, is going to be the easy one. But if you are scared, it's a lot like, like a canine where a canine can sense when, when than something's when to someone's scared.


David Bee Lolis:

Who's dominant. If you're confident, you, you arrive in a hive. In most cases, that is not always, always the case. But if you move. If you move slowly, move gracefully. You have good intention. They sense all of that as a hive. And, of course, there's 80,000 of them. Plus or plus or -10,000 bees in any, but any, any given hive.


David Bee Lolis:

So they can sense those things. So. Yeah. You want to be calm. You want to be. You want to be a lot approach group a lot of bee beekeepers like to use the smoke to kind of sedate them and and calm them down. But I've seen some incredibly calm beekeepers, who are incredible. I mean, I'm pretty calm, and I'm not scared of them, but for whatever reason, they they don't love me.


David Bee Lolis:

So I have to actually wear a full bee suit. Many, many beekeepers do not. There's a few. Yeah, there's a few. That it. They don't need anything. They can go in at any time. They can pick the queen out. They can put the queen on their neck. No way. Yeah. And the bees will swarm all around their head and not bite, them at all.


David Bee Lolis:

It's it's incredible to see. Yeah, it's it's amazing, actually.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

That'd be.


David Bee Lolis:

Involved.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

Do you think, like, you could train someone to do that or you think it's like a vibrational frequency thing of the person?


David Bee Lolis:

I think both. I think both. I think it is something that's trainable. But you would have to go through some serious training. I don't even know where I would begin with that. But I think the other thing is, it's just it comes naturally to to some, and for whatever reason, I, I've mostly see women beekeepers who are really, in tune with, with bees.


David Bee Lolis:

It's it's it's incredible. Yeah. There's some, there's some on, on socials that, that I see and, and I have, I haven't met but I've seen them and wow. Amazing how they're in tune with with the beep beep beep population.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

That is cool. And we're talking a lot about bees and the bee hive and whatnot. And I will let everyone know, you know, you've developed an amazing product line. We're going to talk about it, and we'll talk more about the specifics of honey and whatnot. But I'm personally, like, really fascinated with the hive with bees, with how important they are, you know, for the environment and all those types of things.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

So, there's a few more questions along those lines, if you don't mind, please. One question I and I already mentioned, you know, the concept of vibrational frequency. I've read I haven't experienced it, but I've, I've read that there is a healing vibrational frequency to this hive. And I know there's even like, I don't know if you would call it a clinic or, you know, there's there's operations that try to harness that vibrational frequency from the hive for healing purposes.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

Is that a thing?


David Bee Lolis:

Oh, that's a real thing. Absolutely. So yeah, there's a couple a couple of things on that front. So you've got, you've got the vibration, then you've got the sound. So those are both independent and they work to get together. The they've started to do some things in the, in PTSD for, veterans. Especially on the vibration and the sound, where there's a certain frequency that just hits, it creates a calming effect.


David Bee Lolis:

And once you dial that in, it's going to be different for everybody. But they're doing testing of of how severe your PTSD is or your trauma. They used to be sounds and and and the vibration to to, to heal. Incredible. And we haven't even scratched the surface, of of of what that can do.


David Bee Lolis:

That plus, so that's just, that's that's that's more mental. And then on the physical side, you've got your, you're, you're, you're B venom therapy and B venom therapy. There's a whole other entire, thing that is super exciting. Not just for, you know, the, the normal things for cancer, etc., but just for people dealing with ailments.


David Bee Lolis:

We're eating a lot of bad foods. So imagine you can reverse those things with, like B venom therapies and things like that. So yeah, I mean, there's a whole world we haven't even got into and look at in the biomimicry side of things, which, by the way, before I got into bees, I was into biomimicry, trying to find the things in nature that we can mimic and learn from.


David Bee Lolis:

And so that's I mean, I got so lucky. I fell in love with bees. And there's and I'm learning every day. It's it's crazy.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

Yeah, that's really cool. The even, therapy was actually something I was going to bring up. I mean, this has been talked about and used for lots of things in this Lyme disease, cancers, autoimmunity. I mean, do you do you have experience with that or is it.


David Bee Lolis:

I do not yeah. I started to kind of play around with it just myself. For, for allergies. I mean, I get stung all the time because I'm always hanging around pigs. So I'm just kind of doing things myself. Not not from a data perspective. Just from an interest. But I'm starting to follow others that that are really diving into that side of things.


David Bee Lolis:

And you're right, there's there's a whole list of, diseases and things that we can help with. Lyme disease is a big one. I don't know if people realize how severe that is and how damaging it can be, especially to elderly. So, so I followed a few. The elderly were like, yeah, I don't know, Lyme disease or get stung by a bunch of bees.


David Bee Lolis:

And and it was hard for them to grasp and be like, well, can I just take a needle or something? It doesn't work the same way.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

That's what I was going to ask you is, are there different routes of administration besides literal bee stings, or is that just the best? Because that's the natural mechanism.


David Bee Lolis:

That's the purest form. Obviously someone or some entity is probably going to do that. You know, evolve into extracting the, the venoms and putting it into a medicine and applying it. But like anything, once you once you do that, it moves from a raw form into a produced form, which we start adding things to it and it takes away.


David Bee Lolis:

So it'll never be as good as, you know, be landing on you or several bees land on you and and you're getting bit right.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

Yeah. You know, it's funny, my wife actually told me about this maybe last weekend. And I actually forgot I was talking to you this week, so. Is kind of interesting on the timing, but, she asked me if I've ever heard of, homes now being built with literal beehives in the home, and there's several purposes for it, but one of them was actually for warmth.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

It was a natural insulation. It would provide warmth. And then, of course, they talked about the vibration that the bees produced. Not just the interesting thing was it's not just one vibration. The vibration changes throughout the day, right? So it's almost like a circadian type of mechanism. I don't know how big this is. I don't know if this is a growing thing, but have you heard of that even.


David Bee Lolis:

As so, on the construction side, it's been done in very small scale. So first, from an observatory standpoint. So how cool is it? Rather than having a hive, you know, be outside your property, which is great. Imagine a hive that's attached to your house. And then they come through. And if you create a glass kind of observatory, you can see them working and building.


David Bee Lolis:

That's therapy in itself. Then you bend the sound, depending on how much sound I think you make, the glass, etc.. That's incredible. And then how you build a hive as you know, the hexagon is the most perfect, shape, for building. I mean, architects use it in across the, across the world. It's there's nothing better than nothing than a hexagon.


David Bee Lolis:

But it's what the bees do. So when it comes to air conditioning, heating, things of that nature, again, no one's really looked at it. But if you break down hives, like, how does how does a hive survive? And I mean, I'm in like Las Vegas right now. It's 110 degrees. There's bees flying around. People like how the how the handling that while they get into the hive.


David Bee Lolis:

They all work together as a collective and they push out the heat. They all turn the same way with their wings and and they, they blow that heat out and it keeps that. Yeah. It keeps that keeps it keeps it cool. So for us to actually convert that from a biomimicry standpoint, from a small hive into a, into a house, we have to get pretty creative.


David Bee Lolis:

But it could be done.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

That's cool. Well, I guess a broad question here, and we could probably have a whole to our discussion on it, but why are bee so important for our planet? Wow. I know it's the big one, but you people have heard this, you know, probably for maybe over a decade. I mean, it really kind of, you know, rose to a thing where it became more, you know, people were becoming more aware of it.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

But even to this day, like, people know that, okay, these are important, that I mean, why why should we really care about bees?


David Bee Lolis:

Okay. So so let's break it down from a species standpoint. And our ecosystem. Let's start there. So for our ecosystem there, I don't know of and maybe there is because, you know, my I've got my, my head in the highs is, as I say, often. Yeah. I'm not looking I'm not looking around. But from a food supply.


David Bee Lolis:

Let's just talk about that from ecosystems. From, from pollination for flowers and plants to be able to, to do what they do in our ecosystem doesn't, doesn't, doesn't exist without the bees. I mean, there are other pollinators, but none that arise on purpose as a, as honeybee. So, so from plant growth, to protection, of ecosystems.


David Bee Lolis:

And then just, just our food supply, our food supply doesn't exist. You know, some doctor, some some data analysts say it's a third of our our food supply would disappear. Some say two thirds of our food supply would disappear. Any part of our food supply that disappears is pretty important. The best thing that we protect the bees.


David Bee Lolis:

And so above, you know, making products and creating awareness, protecting the bees is really our mission statement in what we do.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

Yeah. So obviously there's a global impact here. And I know a big part of what you're trying to do is really just raise awareness, and educate the public about how important all of this is. You know, bees intentionality. You know, just just your, your whole lifestyle. You know, we were even talking about AI and some of the negative consequences coming from AI.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

Before we started recording, so I know that, you know, your mission is big, and that's why I kind of served up a big question there. And like I said, we could we could go on that for for several hours. But, yeah, let's kind of shift to this.


David Bee Lolis:

Wonderful, like, one more thing. Yeah. So the other thing outside of, you know, protecting the bee and how important it is for the ecosystem is just, good, good raw, complex food, which I is. And so, so when you look at the protection of that, imagine fast forward 100 years or a thousand years, and we didn't have honey and we had to use, you know, simple sirups and, and, and regular sugar because we ran out of honey because there were no bees.


David Bee Lolis:

I mean, God forbid, the the value, the properties of raw honey, the fact that it doesn't expire, the, you know, all the benefits of it, which I'm sure we'll get into, I mean, it's it's all over. How important are honey is and how it's how it's different in your body. But just just honey by itself, this complex food is so nourishing and so important to humans, that we have to protect it.


David Bee Lolis:

And so I want to add that.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

So that's actually a great segue. I was literally going to shift and say, let's talk about this wonderful stuff that the bees make. Yeah. So honey compared to sugar, let's just kind of start there. Right. Right. Obviously most people are using it as a sweetener, you know, coffee, tea, whatever foods or whatever. So let's just kind of compared to sugar for a moment because I think there's a lot of things to kind of point to in regards to glycemic index.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

You know, we we're going to go get to the health benefits. But one important thing to, to really touch on is how, you know, you can consume, in I should qualify actually, let me let you qualify. Let's talk about consuming like a processed honey versus a good raw honey. And how that compares to sugar. Do you mind okay.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

There.


David Bee Lolis:

Yeah. So that I think that that's the, the most important I mean, there's a lot of good, important pieces. For us to discuss. Most people know the benefits of, of honey. They really do. And, and a lot of, a lot of folks that are buying honey now are getting a lot smarter on where to buy your honey.


David Bee Lolis:

Well, what does that mean? Both. Well, you know, buy a supermarket or buy it from your local bee farmer who you drive down the road and you see them on the side of the road. So on this honey. Very different honey. Processed honey, pasteurized honey versus Ronny. Anything that's heated or processed, even if they don't add anything to it, with which a lot of honeys do.


David Bee Lolis:

So any any of the big supermarkets are they're pushing out, you know, big honeys, Costco selling, you know, discounted honeys, all those honeys are all blended. It come from multiple sources. They're mixing honey with high fructose corn sirup and all this other garbage. So, I always recommend it that if you're, you should you should have some form of honey for something, whether you're using it for medicinally or using it in your daily tea or coffee or whatever it is, buy raw honey.


David Bee Lolis:

Because the difference of the the impact of how it affects you is is game changer from from your allergies. Using a local honey that's from your local state and your local bees and your local flowers that that that will that will fix your allergy issues. They will you'll go through a little period of time, a little a little curve of, you know, why am I so stuffed up?


David Bee Lolis:

But no more stuffed up than you usually are during, you know, the hay season or whatever it may be that you're allergic to. Or if you have something in the air or the area that's, pollution wise, and you're ingesting honey, it will actually help your immune system. It's it's incredible. But raw honey form versus a heated or pasteurized, you want it, you want to stay away from that because it will.


David Bee Lolis:

It will change your life.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

Yeah, absolutely. So, honey, on the immune system, so, yes. Consuming local raw honey. That makes sense. I think a lot of people can draw the conclusions here. You know, the the bees are making that honey based on the nectar or. I'm sorry, the the pollen. Obviously, a lot of the pollen is driving the allergies.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

And so you create these, you know, antibody responses, whatever you want to call it, right? You create this immunogenic response. But there's more to it than that, in regards to the immune system, because honey can actually help bolster the immune system that can help you not get sick. It can help you recover from sickness. Do you want to elaborate on a little bit of how honey can help our immune system?


David Bee Lolis:

Absolutely. I mean, you know, I'm. You're the doctor here. You know, again, I've, I've done. And the deep dive that I've done, it's helping, in so many directions. So let's start with gut health. Gut health is one of the, one of the biggest issues that people have, whether they realize it or they, they want to admit it or not, gut health is is tough.


David Bee Lolis:

That's why there's always, you know, prebiotic and probiotic drinks, or, you know, going to people moving away from pasteurized milk to raw milk. It's all for the gut. Well, with honey, it's the same thing. Honey, honey is going to help with your gut health, which is key, because that's what drives you. The rest of your body.


David Bee Lolis:

That's that's what you're. If it's right in the gut, it's it's it's it's great for everything else, for the rest of your body. So, that that's what that's what, for me is the most important. Starts with gut health. But then you get into your, your antioxidants, your anti-inflammatory. So, in the world of health, we're all trying to be a little bit more healthy.


David Bee Lolis:

It's actually, it's it's it's actually cool to be healthy now. Right? So people are really gravitating towards it. So, for recovery time, just going to the gym doesn't matter if you're an athlete. It's about if you go to the gym three times a week, don't you want to recover faster? Don't you want your your but don't you want to not cramp up?


David Bee Lolis:

Well honey helps with that. Helps honey helps with anti cramping. Recovery times faster. I mean, the list is long. Really simple.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

So to, to really have a benefit here, should people consume like a spoonful, do they have to eat a whole jar every day? I mean what's kind of like a recommended. And again, this isn't like.


David Bee Lolis:

You know.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

A doctor's recommendation here. This is just for general health and wellness. Like whatever. Like what what is an amount that one can try and aim for to kind of benefit from consuming honey.


David Bee Lolis:

So in the be balanced approach, which is kind of our, our part of our mission, everything in moderation. So when it comes to marriage, honey or, or alcohol, there's two very different spectrums. It's it's all about it's all about balance. So, I mean, I think a minimum of, of, of one teaspoon, which, by the way, takes it takes, you're going to look at a teaspoon of honey very different after this podcast because it takes, it takes, one be a lifetime, which is 3 to 4 weeks.


David Bee Lolis:

They live for 3 to 4 weeks. A lifetime to create one teaspoon of honey. So the next time you have a teaspoon of honey, think about this. Bee lived his whole life from the second it was born to the to the to the minute. It died to create you one teaspoon of honey. So something something to consider. Because every time I do a teaspoon of honey, I think, oh my gosh, this this guy worked his whole life.


David Bee Lolis:

Actually, it's a woman because it's the women do all the foraging and the men just hang around any all day. They don't do anything, just so I guess. So it's the girl bees who do all the work. So she worked her whole life to do this teaspoon of honey. But, yeah, it all comes down to caloric intake.


David Bee Lolis:

What you're trying to do in your house, you know, you have to remember, it is it is a glucose. So, or 51% glucose. So you've got to you've got to be careful with your caloric intake across the board. Just like you have to be careful of how much protein you take in and all the rest of those things.


David Bee Lolis:

Sugar, complex sugars versus simple sugars are is a slippery slope, right. So, you know, you you want to be balanced and balance it out with what you do. You don't want to overtake anything. Even as much as I love, love, honey and and and use it as part of my life, I probably don't take as much honey as I probably should.


David Bee Lolis:

For whatever reason, I consider it sacred. So. So I have I have, and becoming a honey small. Okay, I get, I get these these honey jars from local farmers all over the world. Everywhere I travel, I get off a plane. The first thing I do is I go to an apiary and and look for the. That's what I do, because I'm so fascinated by the different types of honey that are created and the tastes and, and how they get different, how they make me feel.


David Bee Lolis:

And those are all different as well. So from a simple wildflower honey, very different than a manuka rich honey, which has, oh my gosh, you get a I mean, a manuka honey is hydrogen peroxide in it. Wow. What that's like. That's right. That's that's crazy. I mean, trace amounts, which.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

Is why you can use it topically or you can use it on wounds. You can try to heal.


David Bee Lolis:

You'll think about.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

That. Yeah.


David Bee Lolis:

Right. So so for me, like the amount of manuka honey I take versus just a regular wildflower honey. Very, very different. And it hits me different. The amount of natural energy I get from one teaspoon of manuka versus one teaspoon of clover, honey. Two very different.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

Very different. Yeah. I mean, I definitely have not gone that far. I mean, you're you're the bee, the bee and honey expert here, so I haven't actually thought about that. But one thing I have realized, we got on a raw milk kick several years ago. And you could taste in the milk. What the cow was eating, right?


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

And I was like, wait a minute. If that's true, then there's a different mineral profile, you know, dependent upon what that cow is like. You know, it just kind of hit me. I mean, it makes sense. But, you know, of course it would make sense for honey to, Yeah. So depending on, you know, what they're consuming. So, yeah, that's really interesting.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

That's cool. And then especially to, to be able to feel how it impacts you. That's.


David Bee Lolis:

Yeah, it's going to be different for everybody. That's the other thing of, of, you know, the how much question. It's based on you, how, you know, how how active are you. Yeah. Are you going to the gym. You're not going to the gym. You know, are you walking to walk at least, you know, a mile or two a day.


David Bee Lolis:

I always sitting I mean, there's, you know, there's there's lifestyle questions you need to ask yourself. And that's where we can think, you know, ChatGPT for for things like that, if you ever want it. Really? No, don't give it. I'll give you a pretty good understanding again. And doctors, I think, will give you a certain amount natural baths and, will give you a good understanding.


David Bee Lolis:

But yeah, depending on how active you are, how much food, calories you're into, you're taking in, how how hydrated you are. Our body's made of 70% of water, right. So how much water are you drinking in addition to consuming the honey and other things. So a lot of things to consider.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

Right? What about propolis? The other thing, when it comes to me and bees and whatnot.


David Bee Lolis:

Amazing. The fine. Yeah. The ad of hives, the hive mind. I call it, that is, untouched. I would, I would put probably propolis and, and, royal jelly in the kind of the same, the same categories as undiscovered, superfoods. Really, really fantastic. And how the bee harvests, you know, they go to trees that are, that are in trouble, and trying to help those, those trees.


David Bee Lolis:

And that's where they, they pull that sap from and, and those binders, and then they bring it back to, to the hive. And of course, it just makes the hives thrive. Yeah. And and for us to be able to participate in, in, in, in taking propolis, as well as, pollen, you know, you can get, you know, bee pollen, which is not honey very different.


David Bee Lolis:

Again it it hits your system different propolis undiscovered as far as all the things that it can do. But it's a long list of benefits for humans.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

That's awesome. Yeah. So let's let's kind of shift gears again. I, I kind of teased a little bit about alcohol, at the beginning of the podcast and of course, you know, it was referencing, the, the product line that you've created, hive two. Oh, so you've created this product, which is, a fermented honey drink, essentially.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

Right. And I could be misspeaking, but, no.


David Bee Lolis:

There's no.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

That's the. Yes. 6% alcohol. I mean, tell us a little bit about your product line and why you made it.


David Bee Lolis:

Sure. So first, again, it was all about the bees. And when I started learning about bees and discovering how fascinating they were, I looked at the the market like I always do as a serial entrepreneur and say, you know, what's the market missing? What is what is what does it need? And what right do we need to be?


David Bee Lolis:

Why, yes. And and when I looked at the market, I saw a lot of drinks. There's a lot of foods. I looked at, you know, potentially doing not doing a honey line, but then I, you know, there's lots of others that already do that. So I thought, you know, that's that's that's the that doesn't really.


David Bee Lolis:

Phil Philip fill up, fill a gap. So when I looked at the beverage industry, I looked at the ingredients that they use, all the fillers, the additives. The expiration. And I said, well, honey is just such an incredible, ingredient. Why why are we not using it more? Yeah. And the answer, the answer was, that, you know, it's it's not cheap.


David Bee Lolis:

It's not it's not easy. It's not it's not simple. And so the first product, it created was just something that was actually created, you know, during the Egyptian time, was fermented honey, with, with, with, with any kind of yeast, water and honey, you can, you can make an alcohol all the way up to, you know, 20%.


David Bee Lolis:

And so the Vikings and the Pirates, they all used to drink something called mead. It sounds like meat, but it's mead with a D on the end. And that's just that. That was the alcohol that came before wine and before beer. Just. That was the very first alcohol. Just, And it was a little history lesson.


David Bee Lolis:

So I always looked at mead, kind of when I kind of went through my phase of, like, everything I do, being all in. I was a whiskey whiskey guy, and then I was a wine guy, and then I got into beer for a while, like, I mean, it really dive into, you know, the flavors and closing my eyes and saying, where is it from?


David Bee Lolis:

You know, from Somali standpoint and it but no one's doing anything like this with, with, with honey. And then I looked at mead and I thought, well, maybe I'll, I'll try to help the bees with mead. But the problem with mead is, is that it was, was just too strong. It wasn't alcohol content, very high in alcohol.


David Bee Lolis:

And then the just the taste was very distinct. So if you were a Viking. Great. Right. If you're at a Renaissance Faire. Fantastic. But there was nobody that was kind of, blending it to, to to be, the palate accepted. So I so I wanted to do something different. And so that's, that's how hard honey was born.


David Bee Lolis:

Well, actually, before hard honey was high. It was high to low. So high to low is the chemical symbol for honey water. Yes. Okay. H2O is water high, too. Oh, it's honey water. So that was that was born first and then that evolved to, both an alcohol and non-alcohol version. So I do both. We have a honey water.


David Bee Lolis:

It's, two zero and then and then our alcohol version is high to low and that's 6%. So what you do is you you put the yeast in, really good water. Water is very important as well. If you're going to use a great honey, a raw honey, you can't use a purified water. Those those are that's it's a negative.


David Bee Lolis:

You don't want to put in something that's full of things into a pure product. So you've got to use spring water. So these spring water we use raw honey and then we use real fruit. That's the other thing is if you're going to make a really great product, you can't use 1% juice or 3% juice. You can't use fake products.


David Bee Lolis:

You got it. You got to use the real deal. So that's when that's when high tool was born. Hard, honey. Very unique. I saw no value from an entrepreneur, from a business standpoint of of raising awareness with an alcohol, which is mead that's been around for 5000 plus years, maybe a thousand years. And and most people don't even know what that is.


David Bee Lolis:

They never heard it. Have you heard of it? No. Okay, so there you go. So. So case in point, so I created the category of hard honey, so that people could remember, you know, they heard of hard lemonade. They worked hard, hard, hard. Honey, just is easy to easy to remember. And then I got really creative in the formulas.


David Bee Lolis:

I didn't want to create anything that was the same as anything had been on the market. Both how it looked, how it tasted. So so so the flavor profiles are what I call powered experiences were born. And so what connects all of our different products? And we don't have to dive, you know, too deep on it. But from the alcohol side, which was the very first it's called first version of high to low.


David Bee Lolis:

We evolved into a non alcohol because the nonalcoholic market people are sober curious. Now people want you know the new the new. But I'm not. It's Gen Z. They don't they don't drink as much. They do they do alternate things. Yeah. And so they're looking for an alternative, you know, adult beverage that doesn't have the alcohol or that's the side effects from a cocktail.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

Yeah.


David Bee Lolis:

Yeah. Exactly. So, so we created the high two zero line. We have a nonalcoholic wine and a nonalcoholic alcoholic hops. And so we got kind of something for everybody. And then we expanded even further by using our really great water. Because water is the key. Like our bodies that are made up of 70% water. Your drinks are mostly made up of water.


David Bee Lolis:

And if you're going to put that in your body, you know, make sure it's spring water because that's naturally occurring, right? Comes from the ground, comes from the mountains. That's what you want to be putting in your body. You want put anything purified or or, you know, reformulated. Right. Nothing that's been in bio act. So, that's, that's that's really high too.


David Bee Lolis:

Oh that's oh. And we've got, we've, we've expanded into the, the athletes have said, wow, this is a really great product. You have something that for performance because honey is so, so beneficial for absolutely muscle cramping. You know those kinds of things. Can you do that. So we said yeah, you know what? We'll we'll come up with a naturally occurring electrolyte.


David Bee Lolis:

So we have a, a new cool water that's actually coming out that you didn't know about. Yeah. I wanted to announce that actually with you, so soon, athletes and, I mean, everybody will have access to it. But just imagine the best ingredient. So we're going to use manuka. Manuka honey, which is one of the most beneficial honeys on the planet because the the flowers in the forest, they're foraged are very rare from New Zealand, in Australia.


David Bee Lolis:

So the benefits are huge, to, to to to ingest that. And then we've added coconut water to that, which is the best electrolyte on the planet still after hundreds and hundreds of years. I don't know if you know much about coconut water, but yes, that was that was kind of my previous life. So there was many moons ago.


David Bee Lolis:

I did a coconut water company and it was very successful. Yeah. And and that was so kind of got me into the beverage industry, actually started the super with at the beginning, but, that.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

Was called information. I just looked at, it's old research, but just by consuming a good quality coconut water every day, you can actually have a very positive impact on your microbiome. Like there is a there is a really good study that, that connected that. I hadn't seen it before. I just read that recently, maybe a week ago or so.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

But yeah, the benefits of coconut water are huge.


David Bee Lolis:

Massive. So yeah, I've, I've, I've really heard a lot about coconut water, like 18 years ago and kind of stepped away from it. And then of course, now coconut water is available everywhere. But again, the kind of coconut water that you, you put in your body, the difference between raw coconut water, like right out of the coconut versus, you know, through the through the process and into the bottle and, and all that very different coconut.


David Bee Lolis:

So as our, our goal is, is, is to take a raw coconut and raw honey and put them together. That's awesome. And sit in a spring water and not pasteurize and not, not heat up and take all the nutrients and benefits, outfit. So, and one of the things I don't know if you knew about, but technology wise that we do differently as well, we're using a UV technology to kill all the bad bacteria, but not kill all the good nutrient bacteria.


David Bee Lolis:

The good, the good bacteria. Sure. So that would be different. So mostly everything that everyone drinks, whether it's in candle bottle or glass container, it goes through a process to be able to be shelf stable. Well, when you do that, heat up the, the ingredients and you kill all the benefits. So, you know, if it says, you know, gut you for gut health, well, the moment that it pasteurized at 180 degrees, you've lost all of those benefits.


David Bee Lolis:

So what we do different is we use UV technology to to only kill the bad bacteria so that it doesn't grow. Yeah. In the container, and have a somewhat of a good shelf life. We're using honey so it doesn't expire, so that helps. But the other, the other things do expire. So we've got like a two year shelf life, which is really great for something that's not pasteurized or, or we, we kill all the nutrient benefits.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

Yeah. That that's interesting. And yeah, I've of course, you know, people will talk about pasteurization from several different angles. From a health standpoint. Right. As long as you're using a good clean sources, as long as you're taking good precaution, you're producing it properly. All these things, I mean, I don't want to consume things that are pasteurized. There's several reasons why we don't.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

It kills the product. Right? Whether you're talking about honey, coconut water, dairy, all these things. I mean, you're you're essentially killing the enzymes. You're you're denaturing proteins. You're like you're changing the actual state of this biological substrate and all the known benefits then kind of go out the window and you're consuming. I just say you're consuming a dead product.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

So this is definitely a problem in the food space. And they, you know, it's done to, you know, not get sick. You know, I don't want a stomachache, I don't want or whatever. Right. And I acknowledge that that's fine. We don't want to get sick. But I mean, I mean, I'm a guy that will consume raw eggs, you know, because of the health benefit of that at times.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

Right? I mean, so there's a risk, the benefit ratio. And as long as again, you're, you're, you know, I'm not consuming raw eggs from, you know, Pilgrim's Pride or, you know, where all the chickens are stacked up on each other and they're, you know, fecal matters on everything. And, you know, I'm not consuming that raw egg. You know, I'm consuming the the chicken that, was free roaming, eating bugs and, you know, that kind of thing harvested properly, all the things.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

Right. So that's what you have to understand as a consumer. Is that how these things, all this stuff that you're talking about, like, I hope people are acknowledging all of the intention, to the process, because that is so vitally important. When you're consuming things. And definitely appreciated on my end for sure. I'm glad you brought up coconuts.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

My. I have a secret love affair with coconuts. My wife and I, we, we took a three month long sabbatical about, I don't know, 8 or 9 years ago, we we sold everything. We moved to Costa Rica. We were going to live there for longer. But we had some business opportunities. Came back and whatever.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

But we absolutely fell in love with people with with the coconuts there.


David Bee Lolis:

In a sense.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

You know, getting a coconut literally just off the beach, cutting it open and drinking it. Oh, my gosh, it was sweet. It was refreshing. It was hydrating. It was like it was an experience like none other. I've never consumed something so amazing like this. And so anytime we travel, this is another reason why we love traveling to like Central South America and Mexico.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

Like all these things, we like to go in and taste the coconuts and, while I, I love going to Mexico, I don't like the coconuts there. They just don't have the the flavor. They do. I don't know, there's just something about them. But, man, there is something magical about that coconut in Costa Rica. So, yeah, I definitely have this secret love affair with, with coconuts.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

When do you think your when is your new product coming out? Is that soon?


David Bee Lolis:

Manukau water. Yeah. Manukau water will come out in the next probably 45 days. Yeah. Yeah. It's, we're super excited about it again. It's all about the process. So it's about getting the right coconuts in the right. Honey, you touched on something that that I love to kind of speak to is is harvesting and harvesting responsibly?


David Bee Lolis:

That's very important for honey as we grow and and honey becomes more mainstream, and people are interested, in, in taking more honey that has an impact on the planet, all decides, oh, we all love honey that's going to impact the production. And so harvesting responsibly is key because a lot of B farms, you know, they, they throw down water and sugar and, and rather than natural, wildflowers and, and that's how they're, they're getting their bees to produce honey.


David Bee Lolis:

That's not the same. Throwing down sugar water for them to be their food versus going to a flower. Very different kind of honey. So again, look, local local honey. Look local coconuts very very different. And you're right as you go from region to region. I've recently been to Belize, the coconuts in Belize are incredible. That happens to be where we're getting our our coconuts from.


David Bee Lolis:

So not just because we're doing that because, you know, we have access to, we get access to to Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Costa Rica. There's there's many places you can get coconuts from, but Belize, it just tastes better. It just tastes incredible. So we get the opportunity? Yes, absolutely. You have to try a Belize coconut.


David Bee Lolis:

Oh, I'm going to have some brought in, in large totes. And when I do, I'll make sure that I send some to you and your wife.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

You'll. Oh, yeah.


David Bee Lolis:

You'll really appreciate it. It'll be sent cold and chilled, because again, we don't pasteurize, so it'll be raw. So it does have an expiry. Yeah.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

That's awesome. That's cool. Yeah.


David Bee Lolis:

Expires are good in this case.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

Exactly. Yeah, exactly. It's like the, you know, the the research where, you know, someone left to McDonald's hamburger or French fries, whatever it was, they left it out trying to see how long it would take to mold. And it just.


David Bee Lolis:

It never did.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

I think it's still going on. It's like, come on. Is that really what you want to be consuming? I mean, come on.


David Bee Lolis:

Yeah, yeah. But it's changing. You know, people, we as you know, as people are looked at things as the expiry. Oh, it's not long enough where, you know, it's not a long shelf life and there's no food supposed to be having expiry unless it's money. That's the art. That's that's the magic. That's the elixir of of of the planet.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

True, true. Yeah. You know, for ages in your in your cabinet. Yeah.


David Bee Lolis:

Oh, they. Yeah, they still have, they still have money. You know, it depends on what it's in. Don't recommend in plastic but in glass you can you can leave it forever and they have to put by, you know, FDA or whatever the food governing food bodies, they have to put an expiry. But honey does not expire. Nice.


David Bee Lolis:

That's awesome. It is. It is proven and cinnamon as well. It's one of the very few things that never expire.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

Don't know that that's interesting. So I know everyone's going to want to try your product. How how can they how can they try your product? Is it the or online? You go in the store, explain it.


David Bee Lolis:

Yeah. Online is our biggest we're slowly growing across across the US. We're in eight states now. Select Whole Foods. We're getting more and more retailers. But online hive to local, hive two 0.com hard honeycomb, and even hive H2O. So we do have a spring water as well. Because, you know, some people just most people drink a lot of water.


David Bee Lolis:

Yes. And everyone was saying your drink is just how do you make it taste so good? Well, it's about the water and the ingredients. And so we have two really great water sources. And we just and everyone for a reason. It's really funny, right? It's, that people couldn't, couldn't remember the name when I first launched.


David Bee Lolis:

The brand had to. Oh, now seems simple enough, but I don't know, they just couldn't get it. But but but they remember hive H2O. That's it, that's it. Yeah. For whatever reason, hive Tool turned into hive. Each tool, once it passed through the the pathways of their brain. And so I kept correcting people like it's not how to oh, it's hive H2O.


David Bee Lolis:

And until I got tired of it. And one day I was driving and had an epiphany. I was like, wow, I really need to launch a product called hive H2O because, you know, people just, you know, they're not getting it. And so that's when I created the water, and I had some athletes that are brand ambassadors and said, David, God, I love all your products, but can you make water?


David Bee Lolis:

Because I just drink so much water. And I really I love the water that's in your in your product. I said, yeah, absolutely. So, so hive H2O was born just last at the end of last year. And that's just a mineral rich spring water, a naturally occurring minerals, calcium, magnesium, all the things that you need in your water, all naturally occurring nice.


David Bee Lolis:

Nothing messed with. And, and it tastes different. I'll make sure to get you some of that, too. When you try it, you say, oh, my God, what's the sweetener in here? It's not. It's the minerals. Yeah. If you get if you find the right minerals like anything like white or coconuts, these different white honey taste different if you find those right.


David Bee Lolis:

Natural occurring minerals. It's a game changer on your palate. And it tastes different. Actually, it's actually tastes like we fortified it or changed it, but we didn't test the natural mineral taste. So? So hi, H2O welcome as well.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

Yeah, I've tried your water. It does. It has that that sweetness to it. Which is awesome. I so I love sparkling water. I'm like a huge sparkling water nut. And I've tried all types. And that's one thing that we'll do when we go to a new area, like, especially, you know, Italy or Spain or something.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

They have some really cool sparkling water. Some of them are terrible, but sometimes they're, you know, they're really good. And I always ask or I read, you know, where's the source? I always want to know the source. But yeah, your your product is is cool. And you're right, it has kind of a sweet undertone to it. I can definitely appreciate that.


David Bee Lolis:

I'm glad you like it.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

Yeah, absolutely. We'll definitely be be stocking up more. I'll my my whole foods right across the street here. Didn't have the product. Maybe I just didn't find it. Maybe I just need more. Where are.


David Bee Lolis:

You? Where? Which they. Are you in Cedar Park.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

So just north of Austin, Texas.


David Bee Lolis:

Okay. Yeah. We're not in Texas yet. We're working on Whole Foods, nationally. And we've kind of done little areas. We haven't been in Texas yet, but that is on the map.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

Nice. All right, well, I'll, I talk, you know, I'm. I'm in there, like, all the time. It's right next to my office, so I'll, I'll I'll give you a shout out. I'll tell them. Hey. Thank you. You need to be carrying this stuff.


David Bee Lolis:

Appreciate that.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

Absolutely. All right, so before we wrap up here, just have a question for you. Another broad question. So there's there's a metaphor, you know, comparing the honey hive to, to humans, right? To to us collectively as a human culture. Is there something that we've lost in this human culture that you can find that still resonating in that, in that beehive, like, is is that a good metaphor?


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

And then are you seeing light? Is there a connection? Have we lost something? What are your thoughts. And again this you can go in any direction. You're I'm just kind of stirring you up. Something to chew on.


David Bee Lolis:

Sure. Well, you know, so off the cuff, there's a couple things. So to me, bees are the most systematic, organized, system because they all work together. The hive mind. There's no one leading them. There's no one telling them what to do. There's something to be learned from that because they act independently. But collectively.


David Bee Lolis:

Yes, that that's a game changer. I run my company like that. Anyone who works with with me works for me. Knows we are the hive mind. We're the collective. Which means. I mean, I set the direction of where everybody should fly, and I show where the flowers are that we need to pollinate. But other than that, I don't tell anybody what they're supposed to do, how they're supposed to do it.


David Bee Lolis:

They just know. Just like a bee wakes up the day it's born. It knows its job. If it's a male, is to protect the hive and build and build honeycombs. And it's. And if it's if it's female, she she goes and forges and brings in, brings back the nectar. Yeah. That's that's that's the jobs. And then they all work together.


David Bee Lolis:

They all know what to do when, when the hive is hot. They know to cool it down when it. When it's cold, they know to heat it up, all together. So I think from a humanitarian standpoint, we can learn from that of how all to work to better collectively. No division. There is no division in the hive.


David Bee Lolis:

Think about that. Like that to me would if look at me, look at our planet and our state of things and the left and the right and all that, all the all the noise. Why can't we be the collective right about doing the things that we need to do? We wake up, we know the work to do the right thing.


David Bee Lolis:

That to me is, is is so, so, so valuable, to, to to humans. And then from the mystic side. So that's the operation side from the mystic side. I mean, honey is magical. I mean, whatever you believe in religion. Not. You have to look at this little tiny beam that's the size of less than the size of your thumb and lives for three weeks.


David Bee Lolis:

And has all of this knowledge, is on purpose every day. That, to me, is mystifying. That's like. Wow, we as we, as, you know, on purpose, human beings. If we don't intrinsically know what to do, we should be learning how to be better so that we can we can do better. And, and so I so this are the bees that have kind of become my, my god, because the way that they operate together, the way they treat each other, and the way that they help the planet, they help the planet more than all of us.


David Bee Lolis:

Because that's what they do. That's what they were born to do. Right. And so so we have to protect them for that reason. And then so there's the, you know, how they're helping us, and then how do we help them? We need to help them from, you know, companies on the company. But how we're going to harvest responsibly and make sure that we take the right amount of honey so they can continue to survive that we we put in more wildflowers so that they can, you know, they can they can forage from from real flowers that help pollinate versus in my factory where sugar is being poured out the back.


David Bee Lolis:

I don't know if you've heard of this. Did you hear about the honey that became an all? This multicolored was really popular for like a year, and everyone's buying all this colored honey, and they were like, where? Where are you foraging it from there. And they made up that there were some flowers that were creating this great color.


David Bee Lolis:

Well, a beekeeper curious beekeeper said, that doesn't make sense to me. I don't know any flowers that are this crazy colors and like neon pink and and all this stuff. So they they followed the bees and they followed it to an M&M factory and in the back where all the candy, all the off, liquids from the, from the, like seeping out from the factory.


David Bee Lolis:

That's where the that's where the bees were, were, were pulling their, the sugar water from it was all colored M&Ms. They brought that back and they created this colored honey.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

That's insane.


David Bee Lolis:

It is insane. So, you know, we need to be smarter, about protecting them. And, because they're so they're so valuable to us. So, Yeah, there's there's still so much to to to learn. And as we grow, as the interest grows, the more, stewards of of protecting bees, we have to be. Yeah. You need to get.


David Bee Lolis:

I'm going to send you some manuka honey. So that little sniffle. Yeah. I'm telling you, it'll clear up, like, so fast.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

We stayed in this stupid, moldy house, the Airbnb. It was a nice place, but they totally catfished us on the images. And I'm telling you, we got there at 11:30 p.m.. I knew something was wrong, and I. My wife, I'm like, I don't know what it is. Something's not right with this house. And, she was like, it's late.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

Let's go to sleep. We have a lacrosse tournament tomorrow. I woke up, we're all coffin, eyes matted shut. Literally. It doesn't take long. Mold everywhere. Under the sinks, in the tile, in the carpet. I mean, they didn't even try to hide it. And we went, you know, I'm on. I'm taking all my binders and all the things, but.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

And this is better, like, I, I couldn't do podcast or anything. I couldn't do it last week. Right. So I mean this is better. But yeah I need to I'm not take manuka honey so I need to.


David Bee Lolis:

Can you obviously we'll I'll send you a nice raw jar. For sure. Make sure I get your address. That's. I'll send you one right from, from from our farm. And you'll you'll love it. And you'll benefit.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

Yeah. We have, you know, cut you nail, you hit the nail on the head. I think we can learn a whole lot because you just like you said, these bees, while they're independent, they all act collectively. And so they're independent. Actions have an influence on the health and the status of that hive. Well, it's just that's true for us.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

That's true for our world. That's true for everything. And there is so much to learn from that. And the other thing to point to, I always talk about social engagement. Social engagement is huge for our brain, for our brain development, and for proper prefrontal frontal lobe vagal system, like all of these things have to come together to have proper functional, social engagement.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

And when you look at the bee, when you look at the hive, their social engagement is spot on. I mean, they can be going out doing their thing, but then they come back to, the hive and you, just like you said it, it's hot. They all collectively cool it off. If it's cold, they collectively cool it down like they're communicating and they're working together.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

And that's something that we are largely losing in today's world. And of course, it really came to the forefront with Covid. Everyone had to, you know, go in and be on their own. And then now we're making it worse with all the AI and with all the, technology. And we're just getting less and less socially engaged, you know?


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

So that's a big thing that, that I like to point to is how they do our collective, you know, they, they come together. What is the best thing for the hive? What is the best thing for our world? Right. And they they work towards that. It's really cool, but, All right. So we're I know we're coming up on time here, so, is there anything else that you'd like to add to this conversation?


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

Before we, we sign off and then also, tell people how they can learn more about you, about everything you've been talking about. You already said, you know, explain how to get the products, but where can I go to learn more?


David Bee Lolis:

Yeah. So, I mean, I try to keep up, I'm not huge on social media. I'm kind of pushed to be. So people can, again, learn more and create greater awareness. So, we have a couple of Instagram. We have had to, at high to low, we have, hives to, to hand, which is, you know, the farm to table.


David Bee Lolis:

We're had to hand. Yeah. So, so Instagram is hive to hand. You know, I would, I would, I would just say that, that, bees can teach us, a lot more than, like you said on the social and the social aspect. How how to live better. How to be better. I, I'd like to, I mean, obviously you've to create awareness and to, to to do things in the world.


David Bee Lolis:

If I could be a full mission based company, I would be. I would just say bees all day. I really would, but it's it's it's it's not a perfect world like that. So we have to create things. And if you're going to create something, want to create something great. And, and and then the other part is just, just how to learn how to be balanced with AI.


David Bee Lolis:

Like you've talked about, there's so much information coming in now and how you decipher what's real, what's not, what's what, what what do you take? I mean, Instagram is a perfect example of every time someone posts something, you go, wow, is that a doctor? That's telling me that? Is is that a good thing? How much, honey, should I be taking, like, all of those things?


David Bee Lolis:

So, you know, be aware, I would the messaging that I it's important to me. Not as a doctor, just as a, you know, let's think I'm a good human being. It's just just be be balanced and, and, and make, make better choices. And if you and if you do that on a daily, you know, life is just better, you know?


David Bee Lolis:

Yeah.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

It really is.


David Bee Lolis:

For.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

For yourself and for others. Yeah. I mean, you do it, right. It's it's better for everyone. So.


David Bee Lolis:

Yeah. Yeah, that's that's really it. So I really appreciate you, for, for doing this. And I hope you get better.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

Yeah. Thanks, man. Well, I appreciate your time today. Thanks for coming on. This was, you know, a really engaging conversation. I'm glad we had it. It's it goes beyond, honey. It goes beyond these, like, this is. We're talking about intention. We're talking about, the world and the current status of things. So I hope people were able to connect those dots.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

So, if you're listening out there, you like this information? Please like, subscribe, share, do all those things that you know to do, you know, David and I are coming together today, taking time out of our day to help people. That's why we're doing this. So if this information can benefit someone that you know, please share this information with them.


Dr. Brandon Crawford:

And of course, start consuming these amazing products because they're good for you. They're good for the world. They're made with really good intentions, which really does matter. So again, thank you so much, David. I really appreciate your time today.


David Bee Lolis:

Thank you as well. You have a great day.


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